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I won't read LLM authored fiction

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Re: I won't read LLM authored fiction

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Post by j4yav »

Maxion wrote: post #7
INTPenis wrote: post #4

Afaik I have yet to encounter LLM fiction, but I have seen plenty of AI generated music and it truly disgusts me. Each to their own but to me a large part of music was always the life experience of the person making it. I'm listening to their life, their love, their pain in music form. Without an interesting human behind it, art loses all magic to me. That's why it's beyond annoying that my own brother absolutely lov…

I would not be surprised if you've listened to AI generated music or read AI generated text without identifying it. Same as with VFX in shows and movies, the good stuff people don't identify as VFX, but the shitty stuff stands out. It's going to be the same with LLM generated content.

It should be easy then to link to some AI generated music that is actually good?

Re: I won't read LLM authored fiction

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petesergeant wrote: post #17

I can't tell if I'm getting old, or if this is a reaction purely to people making blog-posts saying they don't like AI, but, I am filled with "who cares?". Unambiguously the point of view is valid. I don't share it, but whatever. But why are you writing this, and why is it getting upvoted? We're several years in. Is there new ground being covered here? Is there something special or unique to this take that we haven't…

I'm not sure if you notice, but there are also many more posts every day here about how great AI is.

Re: I won't read LLM authored fiction

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Post by dgellow »

km3r wrote: post #30

While I understand the hesitancy for LLM fiction, I do look forward to LLM powered games, *IF DONE RIGHT*. I imagine a game like Skyrim, where each character has handwritten backstory and dialogue, with an LLM extending that. Having the city guard dynamically react to what you do, stay in character, and even point you to new POI from those conversations seems like a very cool new dimension in storytelling. I took a c…

Sounds like a fun gimmick for maybe a month. And something that will be getting really tiring really fast.

And imagine the PR horror when people start jail breaking the NPC LLMs

Re: I won't read LLM authored fiction

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Post by tempfile »

aleda145 wrote: post #13

I concur with the author. Personally I think I just won't read fiction produced after 2023. There's so much good literature already produced, why bother with the new stuff? I feel very sorry to any budding new authors. Maybe we are entering a literary dark age?

Why can't you just find authors you like and respect, that you trust not to write slop? Why go all cabin-in-the-woods about it?

Re: I won't read LLM authored fiction

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Post by soco »

INTPenis wrote: post #4

Afaik I have yet to encounter LLM fiction, but I have seen plenty of AI generated music and it truly disgusts me. Each to their own but to me a large part of music was always the life experience of the person making it. I'm listening to their life, their love, their pain in music form. Without an interesting human behind it, art loses all magic to me. That's why it's beyond annoying that my own brother absolutely lov…

> the general ambient groove of reggae or blues

This, like elevator or contact center waiting music, has very little to do with "music" itself. It's just something to signal the waiting time and ease a bit of anxiety. While I'm saddened that somebody lost their income with automated background generation, I don't find the end product interesting at all, so whatever. However. However, listening to my genres does definitely need the connection to a human. No, I won't "hate" AI because of it, I will just ignore or press "skip" (where I can). Freedom of choice, baby.

Re: I won't read LLM authored fiction

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Post by petesergeant »

j4yav wrote: post #32
petesergeant wrote: post #17

I can't tell if I'm getting old, or if this is a reaction purely to people making blog-posts saying they don't like AI, but, I am filled with "who cares?". Unambiguously the point of view is valid. I don't share it, but whatever. But why are you writing this, and why is it getting upvoted? We're several years in. Is there new ground being covered here? Is there something special or unique to this take that we haven't…

I'm not sure if you notice, but there are also many more posts every day here about how great AI is.

I think there are posts every day by people who think AI is great, that also imply AI is great, but I don't think there are daily posts whose entire content is "I really like AI, yay".

Re: I won't read LLM authored fiction

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Post by j4yav »

lijok wrote: post #18

This is approaching “I don’t want a synthetic diamond, I want the real thing” levels of lunacy There will come a time, very soon, where you wont be able to tell the difference, and what then?

Presumably artists will be sent to the glue factory and then we'll get to live eternally on regurgitated facsimilies of the corpus of creative work that was produced pre-AI.

Re: I won't read LLM authored fiction

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Post by sevenzero »

imathew wrote: post #29

I won't (if I know) either, but for me it's because a very big part of reading fiction or enjoying any art is that you have a relationship of a kind with its creator. When a passage surprises me or a song lifts me or a painting inspires me it's partly because I'm amazed that someone was able to do that, and that they were able to reach me like that. Everyone borrows or steals from prior art but I'm still amazed by th…

>Everyone borrows or steals from prior art

We are products of our environment, we learned what art is by having other peoples art as reference to "what art is". So it's only natural that our own art is inspired by other peoples work. People usually do not directly steal an artstyle though and if so, they are usually called out for that. LLMs directly steal from artists works hallucinating them into a pile of stolen bullshit that roughly fits the given prompt.

Re: I won't read LLM authored fiction

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Post by j4yav »

petesergeant wrote: post #37
j4yav wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure if you notice, but there are also many more posts every day here about how great AI is.

I think there are posts every day by people who think AI is great, that also imply AI is great, but I don't think there are daily posts whose entire content is "I really like AI, yay".

In that sense you're in luck, neither is this post as simple as "I really don't like AI, boo".
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