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Taste Is All That's Left
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Re: Taste Is All That's Left
#302Taste seems something that should be more related to a craft but when doing engineering we don't talk about taste, we talk about theory, systems, practices, skill, intuition, experimentation, teaching and learning. So the debate on whether taste matters or not might come down to whether creating software can be called craft or engineering. In my opinion, maybe programming was more of a craft before LLMs but it looks like it is being squished between the engineering aspects of producing and maintaining software going ahead.
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#304On a side note, since the author has included a detailed explanation that the text is not AI generated and this is her default writing style, I just find it very difficult to read this style of extra punchy writing. I don't know if it is just me or anyone else as well.
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#305> I do write like this sometimes. The short sentences, the reversals, the one-word lines—all of it. It’s just the way it is. A LLM writes that way too, because it was trained on the same essays I grew up reading I'm extremely irritated that the post is being accused of being AI slop. I have a visceral reaction to AI generated writing, and this post rang 100% human to me. Makes me actually quite angry that one can no…
Same, the post has an entirely different speech rhythm than AI.
In Walter Murch's "In the Blink of an Eye" he describes how, when cutting a movie, the reason cuts work at all is because human experience has cuts: we blink.
More specifically, we blink when a thought is complete, to finish one thought and begin another.
When a movie is well-edited, the audience will adapt to the rhythm of the movie, and you know you've placed a cut at the right moment when the audience will blink at the exact moment of the cut.
The same "rhythm of thought" applies to written essays as well, and once you get a feeling for it, you'll notice how AI generated text follows no such rhythm, no such structure.
AI generated text has the rhythm of TV salespeople combined with tiktok brainrot, overwhelming you while at the same time saying nothing at all.
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#306Pangram classifies 100% of this text as AI-generated.
I disagree. It has none of the rhythm of AI generated text. Even humans that copy AI patterns adopt the AI rhythm at least on smaller scale.
But this follows human structure and rhythm through and through, whether on the level of sentences, paragraphs, sections, or the whole text.
I'd say it's handwritten.
Re: Taste Is All That's Left
#307On a side note, since the author has included a detailed explanation that the text is not AI generated and this is her default writing style, I just find it very difficult to read this style of extra punchy writing. I don't know if it is just me or anyone else as well.
I assume it's common and understandable to dislike LLM generated content and therefore anything that resembles it regardless of origin. For those who happen to write in a similar way it's a pity.
I've noticed some people on the internet dismiss content just by its length too now. I assume this is because they're not used to the idea of a human producing long form content (as opposed to the short form rewarded by popular feeds). I wrote a post (other forum, other handle) where I included some markdown tables and detailed explanations in an attempt to be thorough and help others answer my question and got accused of having LLM generated it despite writing it myself. Maybe the usage of markdown tables or the length of the post was the issue. Anyway, it's not nice being dismissed as AI slop when no AI was involved. I also don't see how there could ever be a reliable way of identifying origin of digital content such as text on a forum.
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#308Earlier quoted context omitted.
> So let me be plain about it: Claude was not here. No LLM wrote this—not a sentence of it, nor was it outlined, drafted, reviewed, checked, etc. by one, and there is no prompt behind it either Following form of the words I just read: these 100% animous filled HN threads about how everyone is bad and everything deserves mocker have to be some elaborate power game to undermine hope and human will, I genuinely do not u…
IMO giving "benefit of the doubt" to something beyond doubt is bad, straight up. If someone can't tell this article is AI then they need to go spend an hour a day reading known AI writing vs known human writing until they develop the skill; the voice of this author SCREAMS AI. I'm a firm believer in not engaging with or promoting the content of misrepresented AI.
That's where you're wrong. It sounds close to AI, but it's very clearly not AI generated.
Let's look at
> So let me be plain about it: Claude was not here. No LLM wrote this—not a sentence of it, nor was it outlined, drafted, reviewed, checked, etc. by one, and there is no prompt behind it either
AI would've chosen rule of three (instead of 4 + etc), wouldn't have used the either at the end (doesn't fit into the rhythm), wouldn't have used "let me be plain" (more likely to use "let me be clear" or "let me be frank"), and wouldn't have chosen "Claude was not here".
If you've actually read a lot of essays and AI generated text (and sadly, I have), it's very obvious that this was neither generated nor rephrased by AI.
This is very much like the recent "kurzgesagt got banned by YouTube's AI detector" story, where the humans whose style was copied by AI now get accused of being AI
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#309I don't agree with the premise that creating is no longer the hard thing. It's only been automated when your taste is bad.
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#310I have mixed feelings... I stumbled upon, read a post-mortem that looks even more AI-generated than the article.
"That says something about my writing. It says nothing about who wrote it." - Two contradicting sentences, author's writing skills are part of the author as-a-whole
"The short sentences, the reversals, the one-word lines" and then "I will write the next one plainer.". - even more?
And... I wonder if this is like some agent wrote article, and, in the loop, added port-mortem, after visiting hacker-news comments and manipulate that this is human written. Or maybe author is just trolling us with AI-like prose...