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Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability

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To me this correlates more to them being bought by Microsoft, a company known for being seemingly incapable of creating quality software to the point that it's not even funny anymore, and also known for sloppifying all the products they touch.

It's true, Microsoft made github worse, but the more recent issues seem to have to do a lot more with Microsoft selling its soul to AI. Microsoft really appears to have gotten dumber as they became dependent on AI. Most recent example: they used to promote Win11 and 32GB RAM. Now they are down to 8GB silently ... this is quite hilarious. There are now so many side effects that you see degradation in so many other are…

This really needs to have a lot more evidence that it’s because GitHub’s code is being written by AI vs them being bombarded by activity from all kinds of AI agents all over the world vs they were already on a trajectory of quality loss.

Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability

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I don't think this portents anything great for software in general. We're a good year+ into the use LLMs for all major bits of software that we all rely upon and GitHub here is down to one 9 of uptime. I've been using GitHub for a _long_ time, my first commits there go back to August 2009!, and I honestly don't recall GitHub going down as much as it has in the last year. I'm sure there's other things happening in the…

It's caused by human laziness and corner cutting. LLMs can write buggy code or incomplete architectures as much as humans can, but standards have lowered. It's not the LLMs are not capable of also fixing these same issues, but that's additional work.

Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability

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I don't think this portents anything great for software in general. We're a good year+ into the use LLMs for all major bits of software that we all rely upon and GitHub here is down to one 9 of uptime. I've been using GitHub for a _long_ time, my first commits there go back to August 2009!, and I honestly don't recall GitHub going down as much as it has in the last year. I'm sure there's other things happening in the…

Microsoft acquisition which forced to migrate all to Azure.

And yet they still have a completely separate IDP for employees https://github.okta.com .

Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability

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I don't think this portents anything great for software in general. We're a good year+ into the use LLMs for all major bits of software that we all rely upon and GitHub here is down to one 9 of uptime. I've been using GitHub for a _long_ time, my first commits there go back to August 2009!, and I honestly don't recall GitHub going down as much as it has in the last year. I'm sure there's other things happening in the…

I wonder if GitHub actions was a bad idea? Like maybe it's being abused for other kinds of compute besides just builds? And even builds themselves can require a lot of compute. I've only recently had a repo there where I wanted to do builds to make a release (both linux binaries and WASM) and whenever I do that tag and wait a few minutes for those builds to finish I think about all the other projects/repos out there…

> why didn't they just have you upload the binaries after building on your local machine?

You can do that already with GH Releases. Actions is if you want CI/CD managed by GitHub. And you can also use your own machines via self-hosted runners.

Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability

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I don't think this portents anything great for software in general. We're a good year+ into the use LLMs for all major bits of software that we all rely upon and GitHub here is down to one 9 of uptime. I've been using GitHub for a _long_ time, my first commits there go back to August 2009!, and I honestly don't recall GitHub going down as much as it has in the last year. I'm sure there's other things happening in the…

The last month GitHub hit four 9s of uptime was November 2024

Yeah, GH's availability has been a joke for many years, maybe even for a decade now.

Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability

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That’s no excuse. Particularly if it affects people self hosting their workers. These are folks that routinely make it a point to press on system design and scalability during interviews. Now they suddenly can’t scale or design systems but we should accept that?

Are you kidding? That's an insane amount of load increase to manage. "Scalability" isn't one thing, especially not at that level, so it's ridiculous to knock them for it. That amount of load ripples across your entire infrastructure.

They have the backing of a trillion dollar corporation and can literally hire some of the best talent on the planet. People nor budgets are an issue here.

Why do we keep giving excuses to poor engineering disciplines + poor management? This problem is entirely GitHub's making and acting like it's some unplanned natural disaster is low key pathetic.

Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability

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they walked that back for now at least - self-hosted gh runners are still free: https://docs.github.com/en/billing/concepts/product-billing/...

Well, they're still implemented that way.

More likely is that the log streamer takes up some amount of resources and thus running it requires a baseline level of compute. But I doubt they spin up a small runner per-self-hosted runner, most likely some ruby workers (on distributed azure instances) are dedicated purely to streaming self-hosted runner logs to log consumers.

I'm certainly not surprised that they tried to sneak in billing self-hosted runner minutes at some ratio to potentially recoup the costs here.

0: https://docs.github.com/en/enterprise-server@3.21/admin/mana...

Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability

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> They definitely managed to create a lot of reliable products. > Windows NT was one of them. Disagree. I was admining NT4.0 boxes back then and it was 1. very slow 2. constantly leaking that required weekly scheduled reboots 3. security wise it was nightmare even by that times standard

Thanks for sharing. It was that bad back then? As a consumer user the stability brought by the NT kernel was great back then, but maybe enterprise wise it was a different story? I never worked as a sys admin so can't say. For the last point what was the golden standard back in the mid-late 90s, if we don't include mainframe/minicomputers? Was it Solaris or BSD? Now that I think about it, I feel sad that I do not have…

Beside the NT4 servers we had SunOS 5.x and Digital UNIX (later upgraded to Tru64 UNIX). Yes, from sysadmin point of view they were way more consistent performance wise and less problematic to operate in general. BSDs were not 'approved' but nonetheless we were running DNS and some other internet facing stuff on OpenBSD 2.x if I remember correctly.
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