EFF: Stop Congress from Reauthorizing the Warrantless Spying Bill
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Re: EFF: Stop Congress from Reauthorizing the Warrantless Spying Bill
#2With the amount of effort that the executive branch took in order to get this legislation, even going as far as attempting to invoke the states secret privilege [1], I wonder what sort of public outcry it would take to actually get this unconstitutional legislation off the books. Furthermore, if it could be done, I wonder what would become of the 10's of billions of dollars in facilities and equipment that have been squandered by the government to spy on its own people in the name of freedom.
I would love to hear ideas on how we can get this message out to the average population, and actually get them to care about it.
Sadly, I think a lot of people don't care. Which is almost more worrying than the legislation itself.
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_secrets_privilege#AT.26T_...
Re: EFF: Stop Congress from Reauthorizing the Warrantless Spying Bill
#3First, your "Take Action" link doesn't work. Second, I don't really care if "NSA's Supercomputers" are scanning my emails, text messages and even my phone calls. They're not really interested in my activities. Third, I'll let you in on a little secret, Its not just overseas communication!
If it keeps safe, what do I care!
Re: EFF: Stop Congress from Reauthorizing the Warrantless Spying Bill
#4First, your "Take Action" link doesn't work. Second, I don't really care if "NSA's Supercomputers" are scanning my emails, text messages and even my phone calls. They're not really interested in my activities. Third, I'll let you in on a little secret, Its not just overseas communication! If it keeps safe, what do I care!
What a paradox...
The Theater of security & the futile attempt to maintain the illusion of control.
The sacrifice of pseudo-freedoms for spoon-feed ignorance.
We as a species, have already passed the point of no-return.
Rouge A.I. threats will be the only true distraction to the current state of global surveillance, and only because the allocation of resources will so chaotic to attempt to deal with them.
If YOU don't care about YOUR communications being intercepted, you have just fucked-over all of the next-generation off-spring/relatives. YOUR ENTIRE FAMILY TREE, FOR THEIR ENTIRE LIVES, just for your lack of "care"...
This is humanity @ its lowest.
Re: EFF: Stop Congress from Reauthorizing the Warrantless Spying Bill
#5First, your "Take Action" link doesn't work. Second, I don't really care if "NSA's Supercomputers" are scanning my emails, text messages and even my phone calls. They're not really interested in my activities. Third, I'll let you in on a little secret, Its not just overseas communication! If it keeps safe, what do I care!
New account and first comment here, just to post that NSA can look at your e-mails if they want? I wonder if you're just someone working at NSA and FBI, and who's pushing for these laws. We know that they use "persona management" software to be part of the public conversation.
Re: EFF: Stop Congress from Reauthorizing the Warrantless Spying Bill
#6First, your "Take Action" link doesn't work. Second, I don't really care if "NSA's Supercomputers" are scanning my emails, text messages and even my phone calls. They're not really interested in my activities. Third, I'll let you in on a little secret, Its not just overseas communication! If it keeps safe, what do I care!
You should care because it'll lead to removing your own personal freedom sooner than you think. It's been said that he who would give up his privacy to gain security deserves neither privacy nor security. And it's true. When you hand over your privacy, you hand over power to someone else to turn you into a "person with questionable character" or a criminal even if you never were either. Read Mr. Schneier here: http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/01/security_vs_pr... - his gist is that these all-encompassing activities don't buy us improved security. If they don't get us improved security, they're nothing more than a risk to individuals.
Re: EFF: Stop Congress from Reauthorizing the Warrantless Spying Bill
#7With the amount of effort that the executive branch took in order to get this legislation, even going as far as attempting to invoke the states secret privilege [1], I wonder what sort of public outcry it would take to actually get this unconstitutional legislation off the books. Furthermore, if it could be done, I wonder what would become of the 10's of billions of dollars in facilities and equipment that have been…
In my experience, the sad truth has been that most average people have responded to this issue by saying that they have nothing to hide and don't mind since it helps catch terrorists.
Normally, you could expect Republicans to oppose a big government program like this, but, as we all know, as soon as you say the word "terrorist", they're all suddenly in favor of big government and big spending.
Re: EFF: Stop Congress from Reauthorizing the Warrantless Spying Bill
#8With the amount of effort that the executive branch took in order to get this legislation, even going as far as attempting to invoke the states secret privilege [1], I wonder what sort of public outcry it would take to actually get this unconstitutional legislation off the books. Furthermore, if it could be done, I wonder what would become of the 10's of billions of dollars in facilities and equipment that have been…
In my experience, the sad truth has been that most average people have responded to this issue by saying that they have nothing to hide and don't mind since it helps catch terrorists. Normally, you could expect Republicans to oppose a big government program like this, but, as we all know, as soon as you say the word "terrorist", they're all suddenly in favor of big government and big spending.
Sadder still, the press would be all over this if the Republicans were pushing it, instead they are complacent.
As a conservative I can say that in my experience that Republicans are rarely against big government. In the recent election many I know had to hold their nose as neither Romney nor Ryan were true conservatives.
Re: EFF: Stop Congress from Reauthorizing the Warrantless Spying Bill
#9First, your "Take Action" link doesn't work. Second, I don't really care if "NSA's Supercomputers" are scanning my emails, text messages and even my phone calls. They're not really interested in my activities. Third, I'll let you in on a little secret, Its not just overseas communication! If it keeps safe, what do I care!
Suppose that someday you run for office, or lobby for a cause, or run a prominent company. Suppose that you OR someone you love has something in their past they wouldn't want shared, OR which could be misconstrued in the press.
Suddenly, you learn that unless you drop out of the race, or stop lobbying, or withdraw from a business venture, you or someone you love will be publicly shamed, fairly or not.
Or worse than shamed: framed and locked up. We already threw out due process in cases related to terrorism, right?
Not plausible? Not with thousands of intelligence workers and officials, with information on everyone retained for decades, with the NSA working hard to break old encryption so that archived conversations can be made searchable in their databases? Not plausible for this administration or any future one?
That's a huge bet. I'm with the Founding Fathers and the 4th Amendment: the government has to be limited in its searches to specific cases with specific justification.
Re: EFF: Stop Congress from Reauthorizing the Warrantless Spying Bill
#10First, your "Take Action" link doesn't work. Second, I don't really care if "NSA's Supercomputers" are scanning my emails, text messages and even my phone calls. They're not really interested in my activities. Third, I'll let you in on a little secret, Its not just overseas communication! If it keeps safe, what do I care!
"If it keeps safe, what do I care!"
I feel bad for you. Really do.
I know it's a not a constructive comment but with him it seems like a lost cause.