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Federal Communications Commission scraps limit on broadcast TV ownership

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Re: Federal Communications Commission scraps limit on broadcast TV ownership

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Didn't the supreme court recently overturn the Chevron Doctrine? Doesn't that mean agencies like this are not free to set their own rules when a law is ambiguous? And isnt the cap on number of households reached actually codified unambiguously in federal law? Seems to me like this should not be allowed to happen. Let me know if I am wrong.

The law isn't ambiguous.

Re: Federal Communications Commission scraps limit on broadcast TV ownership

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post #43

Didn't the supreme court recently overturn the Chevron Doctrine? Doesn't that mean agencies like this are not free to set their own rules when a law is ambiguous? And isnt the cap on number of households reached actually codified unambiguously in federal law? Seems to me like this should not be allowed to happen. Let me know if I am wrong.

> Doesn't that mean agencies like this are not free to set their own rules when a law is ambiguous? Agencies can say whatever they want but courts are not required to defer to them when this inevitably goes to a lawsuit.

Thanks. That actually makes it make more sense, chevron doctrine applied to courts and what they can/can't do.

Edit: made applies past tense

Re: Federal Communications Commission scraps limit on broadcast TV ownership

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post #53

Note that Tom Delay of all people (remember that guy? I'm old and I'd say barely) wrote an opposing op ed saying that even though he supports the change that this is contrary to the governing statute that he helped write, which explicitly bars the FCC from changing this limit https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2026/08/can-trump-fcc-re...

Crime is legal (if you're in the right group).

There are plenty of things the Trump admin has done where that applies. This is (likely) not one of them.

This idiocy hasn't had its day in court yet, but (especially given how the courts have turned against the administration in most cases recently) it seems highly likely this will be found to be illegal.

Re: Federal Communications Commission scraps limit on broadcast TV ownership

#64

Didn't the supreme court recently overturn the Chevron Doctrine? Doesn't that mean agencies like this are not free to set their own rules when a law is ambiguous? And isnt the cap on number of households reached actually codified unambiguously in federal law? Seems to me like this should not be allowed to happen. Let me know if I am wrong.

The law isn't ambiguous.

True, I tried to convey that.

Re: Federal Communications Commission scraps limit on broadcast TV ownership

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> In a 2-1 vote, the FCC repealed a 22-year-old rule holding that a company cannot own stations that reach more than a combined 39% of the U.S. television audience. This seems like a very odd rule. What about things like CNN? Aren't they available to 100% of households?

Broadcast bandwidth is a limited resource, so it’s subject to special rules to ensure it’s fairly distributed in the public interest. It’s true that the rules aren’t nearly as important as they were when non-broadcast news was harder to find, although that doesn’t give the criminals in charge of the FCC a right to ignore the law.

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Broadcast TV seems laughably irrelevant. It’s difficult to find official numbers, but under 1% of US households have no cable, satellite TV, home Internet, or a cell phone. The latter two are how people consume video and TV to a large degree today. In exchange, we have a great deal of spectrum tied up for terrestrial TV, much of which goes to running infomercials or else is surreptitiously leased for terrestrial data…

Irrelevant? I was under the impression cord cutting is pretty common. If you want to watch live sports or the news, you need CBS, NBC, ABC, FOX. We use a MoHu antenna in the attic.

You can watch all of these things on the internet (legally).

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In an ideal world we would roll back to the 1996 telecommunications laws. (or something approximating a sensible approach to less narrow share of the broadcast spectrum) I think anybody with a gripe about "mainstream media" should really examine who owns most of the media (billionaires) and see the value in enforcing that more indepedent voices are heard, not less as the past three decades has been a relentless march…

The term of "mainstream media" is just a dogwhistle for old people and indoctrinated conspiracy theorists at this point. I mean one of the biggest users of it is Fox News (the biggest news channel by a lot).

At this point its just as meaningless of a term as "liberal" and "socialist". It describes nothing other than a disagreement with the far right position.

Re: Federal Communications Commission scraps limit on broadcast TV ownership

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Didn't the supreme court recently overturn the Chevron Doctrine? Doesn't that mean agencies like this are not free to set their own rules when a law is ambiguous? And isnt the cap on number of households reached actually codified unambiguously in federal law? Seems to me like this should not be allowed to happen. Let me know if I am wrong.

The difference in this case is that the victims are the general public, who don't even own a single lobbyist and can be safely ignored.

Re: Federal Communications Commission scraps limit on broadcast TV ownership

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post #22

I haven't watched broadcast TV in over a decade, except for live sports. I also haven't listened to broadcast radio in even longer. My teenage children don't know how to use the TV or radio. It's like someone telling me a company has a monopoly on the telephone lines; nostalgic for me but utterly useless in 2026.

most people aren't hn readers. broadcast tv is far from useless in 2026, that's how many normies watch tv.

TV viewership for 18-49 has dropped almost 80% since 2000, with the bulk of that drop between 2015 and today. So most "normies" are not watching tv. Older people might, but they represent a fraction of the spending audience.

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post #31

I haven't watched broadcast TV in over a decade, except for live sports. I also haven't listened to broadcast radio in even longer. My teenage children don't know how to use the TV or radio. It's like someone telling me a company has a monopoly on the telephone lines; nostalgic for me but utterly useless in 2026.

And you believe everyone is just like you? What are the consequences of consolidating ownership of broadcast stations? Remember the Kimmel incident? How does that go with even more consolidation?

Yes most are just like me, because TV viewership has dropped almost 80% since 2000 for 18-49.
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