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Software development with AI is starting to feel like cooking steak

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Re: Software development with AI is starting to feel like cooking steak

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This stuff should have some warning tag: rando's musings about LLMs. Lately, whenever I think I found an interesting article it turns out to be this.

You're also a rando, but the difference is that the rando who wrote article made it into the front page of HN

Re: Software development with AI is starting to feel like cooking steak

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I wonder if something is lost to translation. Cooking a stake could be the simple act of putting the steak in the oven with basically zero seasoning with a thermometer and then wait until medium rare with some optional searing. It could also mean trim the meat, cut into slices, seasoning, and frying/grilling them to each persons personal taste, which include well-done. Perfect grilled steak, especially well-done, is…

is "cooking" here used in some kind of very specific sense? isn't it just a word for "making food", so would include grilling as well?

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Re: Software development with AI is starting to feel like cooking steak

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I was just curious asked chatgpt: How can I make a really great steak myself? What to look out for, what to do. Give me detailed instructions. I got a really good answer (including - cut, temperature and reverse searing), so I probably won't even need understanding. (Oh - and yes, I can cook - the answer mirrors what I already know). Yes, it was a very, very poor analogy, because cooking a steak is a well known and w…

I compare this to doing my first smoke (was gifted a smoker). AI gave me the cut, the temp, the timing, the things to watch out for. Chicken's the best to try first, can't mess that up. After goodness knows how many hours.. Pretty inedible leathery chicken.. "Oh my bad! I gave you the timings for a different meat"

While smoked turkey (from Reese bros) is easily the best poultry I've ever had, I certainly would not call poultry the best place to start learning smoking.

In general I'd recommend starting with the most forgiving meat available to you (IMO pork butt or shoulder are great options) as even when you don't hit the ideal cook you often still get enjoyable results. Repeating the process enough times to learn how to dial in a cook is much easier when the misses don't suck.

Re: Software development with AI is starting to feel like cooking steak

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I'm tired of articles which try to make us not feel bad about being eclipsed by AI. We've got to change from the mindset of an artisan--who stakes his being on mastering skills and acquiring knowledge--to that of executives.

Figure out what you want to DO. What you really want to do, not what you do just to pay the bills. Once you figure that out, use AI as an executive uses the best employees he can buy.

Re: Software development with AI is starting to feel like cooking steak

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Am I the only one who thinks the "reverse sear" is like cheating? It takes out all of the skill when you move from the pan to the oven, and I lose all of the fun in learning to be chef.

I agree, it's cheating. My bad hot take is if you're using a meat thermometer and reverse sear to cook steak, you're like a kid on training wheels.

I'll cheat all day then. If I'm going to spend what a good steak costs, I'm going to do everything in my power to make sure I'm not ruining it.

Re: Software development with AI is starting to feel like cooking steak

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Go to costco, buy prime filet. Put it in a ziplock in a sous vide at 130 for an hour. Drop it in corn oil at 425 for 30 seconds. Add some butter and salt. That simple process, suggested by Nathan Myhrvold (former MSFT cto) in the modernist cuisine, produces a filet better than most restaurants.

Since we're deep enough in this thread where we're talking about steak rather than AI, I'd like to lean into that. I used to sous-vide a lot . It was certainly great to get perfectly-done steak. but I still didn't love the result and it took me a while to figure out. Specifically: sous-viding at 130 doesn't reliably render fat. So it's great for a lean filet mignon like your suggesting, but kept giving me rubbery fat…

The internet loves using 137 for Ribeyes for the reason you said. I've had good luck going with 135 for ~4 hours.

Re: Software development with AI is starting to feel like cooking steak

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Go to costco, buy prime filet. Put it in a ziplock in a sous vide at 130 for an hour. Drop it in corn oil at 425 for 30 seconds. Add some butter and salt. That simple process, suggested by Nathan Myhrvold (former MSFT cto) in the modernist cuisine, produces a filet better than most restaurants.

a filet better than most restaurants. Bad restaurants, sure. It does not hold a candle to any half decent steakhouse.

Sous vide is fool proof, you cant mess it up. All you have to worry about is the sear, and that's easy too.

Re: Software development with AI is starting to feel like cooking steak

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350º internal temp for medium done? Maybe you forgot to include the glue on your pizza as well.

Oops, that should 140 F (or 60 C) when done, in the coolest center part. Thank you for noticing it.

8minutes, that's just pure waste; even medium rare (which is hardly tolerable) is 56-57C. Also cooking the steak without any salt is travesty (that should not be an optional step)

Re: Software development with AI is starting to feel like cooking steak

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post #231

This stuff should have some warning tag: rando's musings about LLMs. Lately, whenever I think I found an interesting article it turns out to be this.

You're also a rando, but the difference is that the rando who wrote article made it into the front page of HN

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