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Launch HN: ProvenMetal (YC S26) delivers circuit boards in days instead of weeks

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Re: Launch HN: ProvenMetal (YC S26) delivers circuit boards in days instead of weeks

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Post by willcarkner »

jpatten wrote: post #100

I hope you guys are successful because I would love to see more US options in this space. Realistically, you can get boards in 7 days from China, and competing with them on price seems like a challenge. So that leaves ITAR and people who need boards even faster. Sounds like that’s where you’re focusing your energy already. What pick and place are you using now that you’ve moved on from the Neoden world?

Yes that's where we're putting our energy right now. We do most of our assembly with CMs now, but looking at Juki when we open our facility.

Re: Launch HN: ProvenMetal (YC S26) delivers circuit boards in days instead of weeks

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Post by willcarkner »

Animats wrote: post #102

Drone and defense teams get boards back in 7 days. Quick turn in the US is 2 to 4 days.[1] That's expensive but available. [1] https://www.surfacemountsolutions.com/services/quick-turn-pc...

Yes, a bunch of companies offer it but we aim to make it more available for a lower cost.

Re: Launch HN: ProvenMetal (YC S26) delivers circuit boards in days instead of weeks

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Post by rta5 »

This looks like it has a long way to go before it is usable. Clicking 'Capabilities' largely just gives me the 7 day turn spiel again, while I'd expect something about min trace / space, HDI capabilities, number of layers, any fancy laminates, etc. For assembly I'd need to know more about min pitch / package size, available types of solder paste, etc. If you're doing PCB sourcing AND assembly (like it sounds like in the text here), that is not clear on the site.

Also, for slow old industries (like Automotive), you'd likely need a fast way to coordinate NDAs just to get an engineer to be allowed to share the design files with you.

Re: Launch HN: ProvenMetal (YC S26) delivers circuit boards in days instead of weeks

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Post by willcarkner »

rta5 wrote: post #104

This looks like it has a long way to go before it is usable. Clicking 'Capabilities' largely just gives me the 7 day turn spiel again, while I'd expect something about min trace / space, HDI capabilities, number of layers, any fancy laminates, etc. For assembly I'd need to know more about min pitch / package size, available types of solder paste, etc. If you're doing PCB sourcing AND assembly (like it sounds like in…

You're right. I'm updating the website with capabilities now. The NDA simplification is also a good idea, we will implement that as well. Thanks!

Re: Launch HN: ProvenMetal (YC S26) delivers circuit boards in days instead of weeks

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Post by the__alchemist »

#1: How does this compare in price, parts lib, features etc to JLC? Obviously the price and parts avail will be a challenge.

#2: Is this accessible for hobbyists, prototypes, small companies etc, or is it a service for gov/mil stuff that isn't allowed to use China? (Blue UAS etc)

I'm excited and would love to order a board.

Re: Launch HN: ProvenMetal (YC S26) delivers circuit boards in days instead of weeks

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Post by hahahaa »

seizethecheese wrote: post #27

I ran a hardware startup for about a decade. We ended up doing all PCB assembly in China. We did try to find this in the USA, but it was indeed too slow and expensive. The bottleneck in assembling a PCB is usually component sourcing. My product was not the most complicated, and even then, to assemble in Shenzhen, China, it often took a few weeks to get all the components. The core issue here is that latency is determ…

Is there an opportunity for the design software to suggest alternatives to avoid those long wait time for certain components. E.g. you could also use that kind of capacitor and it is available in 24h.
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