Does 5.6 Sol finally have an "instant" form? Is that the change?
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Improving GPT‑5.6 Sol in ChatGPT, expanding GPT‑5.6 Luna access for free users
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Re: Improving GPT‑5.6 Sol in ChatGPT, expanding GPT‑5.6 Luna access for free users
#42> Our mission is to ensure that artificial general intelligence benefits all of humanity. We’re introducing updates to ChatGPT that improve everyday conversations while expanding access for Free users. This clearly implies that they believe ChatGPT models are AGI and are now willing to say it out loud. Which I think is a fair interpretation of the term. They are general purpose intelligence in that you can get help f…
If we could show the current models to someone like Alan Turing, I am sure he would conclude that we have AGI.
Re: Improving GPT‑5.6 Sol in ChatGPT, expanding GPT‑5.6 Luna access for free users
#43Nothing in the ChatGPT model release notes yet: https://help.openai.com/en/articles/9624314-model-release-no...
(This is a subtle nudge at anyone from OpenAI who reads this to make sure they get updated.)
OpenAI have a model called "chat-latest" - I wonder if that's running this new model yet: https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/models/chat-latest
It's described as "points to the latest Instant model currently used in ChatGPT" - so presumably that's "GPT-5.6 Instant" in the app.
Re: Improving GPT‑5.6 Sol in ChatGPT, expanding GPT‑5.6 Luna access for free users
#44> Our mission is to ensure that artificial general intelligence benefits all of humanity. We’re introducing updates to ChatGPT that improve everyday conversations while expanding access for Free users. This clearly implies that they believe ChatGPT models are AGI and are now willing to say it out loud. Which I think is a fair interpretation of the term. They are general purpose intelligence in that you can get help f…
> This clearly implies that they believe ChatGPT models are AGI and are now willing to say it out loud.
Well, the models are smart enough to point out why this is wrong.
Re: Improving GPT‑5.6 Sol in ChatGPT, expanding GPT‑5.6 Luna access for free users
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because the model can't read your mind and know if you want a quick answer, or an hour long deep dive.
Then it should just ask the user what they want if its unclear from the context.
Exactly! I posted much the same comment in another thread and there were lots of huffy complaints that amounted to "you're prompting it wrong"
Re: Improving GPT‑5.6 Sol in ChatGPT, expanding GPT‑5.6 Luna access for free users
#46Nothing in the ChatGPT model release notes yet: https://help.openai.com/en/articles/9624314-model-release-no... (This is a subtle nudge at anyone from OpenAI who reads this to make sure they get updated.) OpenAI have a model called "chat-latest" - I wonder if that's running this new model yet: https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/models/chat-latest It's described as "points to the latest Instant model currently use…
There’s no 5.6 instant I think — 5.6 Luna is gonna be the new instant tier model
Re: Improving GPT‑5.6 Sol in ChatGPT, expanding GPT‑5.6 Luna access for free users
#47Giving free ChatGPT users access to reasoning (the 'Think' toggle) will have a broader impact on the world than every new paid model and coding agent combined.
Going from 5.5 Instant (which was noticeably bad) to 5.6 Luna is a big jump as well. OpenAI is probably the most prominent among the general public - an advantage in some respects but they're giving away a lot of free inference and thus have to use a pretty small model to do it.
Re: Improving GPT‑5.6 Sol in ChatGPT, expanding GPT‑5.6 Luna access for free users
#48Re: Improving GPT‑5.6 Sol in ChatGPT, expanding GPT‑5.6 Luna access for free users
#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's also pretty cheap if you're paying for it (for coding). But I don't quite trust it for anything complicated, so I often use Terra.
Terra is awful and not cheap enough to make up for it. I'd suggest using luna or sol.
So Luna is more awful but it's OK because it's cheaper?
Re: Improving GPT‑5.6 Sol in ChatGPT, expanding GPT‑5.6 Luna access for free users
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I'm not sure I agree 1) Back then, even as a free user you'd be able to use the strongest model (even if with tight limits). Now, you need to pay to use Sol, and you need to pay to use Opus or Fable. It does seem fairly premium in that sense. Idk about 5.6 Luna, but the previous Instant was really bad, even for very casual users. It would hallucinate non stop. 2) When $100 and $200 per month plans launched, they were…
>1) Back then, even as a free user you'd be able to use the strongest model (even if with tight limits). Now, you need to pay to use Sol, and you need to pay to use Opus or Fable. It does seem fairly premium in that sense. Idk about 5.6 Luna, but the previous Instant was really bad, even for very casual users. It would hallucinate non stop. This is kind of what I'm saying though. Bottom has fallen out, differentiatio…
especially when 99% tasks don't need fable, and certainly not the next model