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When online commenters detect my art as AI

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Re: When online commenters detect my art as AI

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Post by jhbadger »

badc0ffee wrote: post #49
jhbadger wrote: post #31

This sort of thing is older than generative AI. For the last couple of decades it has been impossible to share an interesting photograph without someone claiming that it was Photoshopped.

I can tell from some of the pixels, and from seeing quite a few 'shops in my time.

That's what people say - that they can tell if something has been 'shopped. And maybe they can with particularly clumsy manipulation. But the fact is just with as with people claiming something is AI, they often claim that something is Photoshopped which is later shown to be true.

Re: When online commenters detect my art as AI

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Post by anakaine »

bjconlan wrote: post #27

Besides the actual topic. The portfolio is fantastic! I particularly liked the yin and yang of world hunger. https://www.davidrevoy.com/article43/yin-and-yang-of-world-h... . I mean not something I want to look at on a wall for too long but it draws on my enjoyment of dark comic book illustrations while also pointing to something topical

I found the person made of dynamite sticks who was trying to light a match in the rain to generate a mental tickle.

Re: When online commenters detect my art as AI

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Post by BigTTYGothGF »

It is clearly not AI art when you look closely, the problem is on some of them you have to look closely.

The worst to my eye is the Alice in Wonderland one. What's going on with Alice's hair? What's the tea on the left being poured into? What kind of playing card has a 'C' (it can't be a messy Q as the figure on it is male) and why is there only half a heart there? What's with club on the jack next to it? What exactly is that black bird doing? (It's been a long time since I've read the books, what bird is that anyway?) How does the flamingo's body work? Is Alice sitting on it? Why are there buttons on both sides of the White Rabbit's coat, and why is it shaped differently on the left and right?

Re: When online commenters detect my art as AI

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Post by kbelder »

jwitthuhn wrote: post #5
fwlr wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They’re not “drive-by yahoos”, they’re people who appreciate art, and they are necessarily and justifiably skeptical. They’re doing nothing wrong. In another world, many of them would be dedicated fans of the artist. In this world, however, AI companies have been permitted to cause this massive tragedy of the commons, and they are the ones we should reserve our epithets for.

I have plenty of epithets for people who accuse others of lying based on vibes alone. It is not necessary or justifiable.

I tend to judge false accusations (when done negligently or maliciously) as harshly as whatever the accusations are of. Falsely claiming somebody is a liar is as bad as lying. Claiming they're racist, as bad as racism. Cheater, fascist, abuser, and so on.

Re: When online commenters detect my art as AI

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Post by RetroTechie »

dev_hugepages wrote: post #22

I do AI assisted images for fun and browsing their art I can't see any tell of AI or even tracing on AI; people became paranoid and jump to conclusion without any substance and I find it sad that people who put a lot of time and effort into their craft are getting knee jerks comments like this.

> people became paranoid and jump to conclusion without any substance

Before AI, the only question was who made a particular artwork. Human-created practically a certainty.

When AI-generated art was new, it was all exiting & the process described to boast about AI capabilities or the skills of people deploying AI. But human-created still the default assumption.

Now, AI-generated is everywhere, and that default assumption of "human-created" is often questioned.

The natural next step is "AI-generated" as default assumption, unless claimed / shown (or even proven) otherwise.

Imho: assumption is the root of all evil. Investigate! Or take an author's word for it unless they're shown to be a liar. But as another commenter noted, it's a kind of tragedy of the commons. Methods to prove you as a human created will be a thing.

Re: When online commenters detect my art as AI

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Post by johannesrexx »

99.99% of people have zero artistic skill.

Those same people feel that they can detect AI-generated works?

Those same people have the audacity to spread their uninformed opinions online?

Those same people are spreading their harmful opinionated content online, actually causing real harm to real artists.

This proves the old adage that opinions are like assholes, everybody has one and they stink.

I've been following David Revoy for years and purchased his Pepper & Carrot books, long before machine learning and large language models got into the hands of unskilled people. He is right to complain.

Re: When online commenters detect my art as AI

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Post by yunnpp »

johannesrexx wrote: post #59

99.99% of people have zero artistic skill. Those same people feel that they can detect AI-generated works? Those same people have the audacity to spread their uninformed opinions online? Those same people are spreading their harmful opinionated content online, actually causing real harm to real artists. This proves the old adage that opinions are like assholes, everybody has one and they stink. I've been following Da…

It's like people who order a diet coke with sushi and feel entitled to drop a 2/5 review on Yelp because they had a stomach ache.

Some people really shouldn't have a voice.

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