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Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability

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Post by zehaeva »

I don't think this portents anything great for software in general.

We're a good year+ into the use LLMs for all major bits of software that we all rely upon and GitHub here is down to one 9 of uptime. I've been using GitHub for a _long_ time, my first commits there go back to August 2009!, and I honestly don't recall GitHub going down as much as it has in the last year.

I'm sure there's other things happening in the background, but I can not help but believe that this is directly correlated with the increase of LLM usage.

Though I would love to hear someone else's pet theory how a rock of the internet went from four+ nines of uptime to maybe one.

Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability

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Post by cyberax »

purplemoonx wrote: post #131
opiniateddev wrote: post #85

Given the recent history of outages, I wonder how many are seriously considering moving off GitHub for anything other than code hosting. I mean actions / workflows.

Until someone makes a better PR experience you guys are stuck with GitHub. Nobody cares about ATProto or whether your commits are a damn NFT or some bs just literally improve upon the experience. That’s it. It’s as if no company is focusing on the product experience or anybody’s experience anymore. It’s all ooo look what I got I got this I can do that too me me me but nobody will ever buy that. Say what you want abou…

Forgejo has a better PR UI. Github has degraded so much that its UI can't even _show_ _the_ _fucking_ _diffs_ without clicking on "Load Diffs".

Github is just the laziest default. It's not _terrible_, but it's also not great.

Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability

#143

Post by zahlman »

opiniateddev wrote: post #85

Given the recent history of outages, I wonder how many are seriously considering moving off GitHub for anything other than code hosting. I mean actions / workflows.

I would conjecture that the long tail of GH users are not dependent on any of the CI stuff in the first place.

Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability

#146

Post by askonomm »

zehaeva wrote: post #141

I don't think this portents anything great for software in general. We're a good year+ into the use LLMs for all major bits of software that we all rely upon and GitHub here is down to one 9 of uptime. I've been using GitHub for a _long_ time, my first commits there go back to August 2009!, and I honestly don't recall GitHub going down as much as it has in the last year. I'm sure there's other things happening in the…

To me this correlates more to them being bought by Microsoft, a company known for being seemingly incapable of creating quality software to the point that it's not even funny anymore, and also known for sloppifying all the products they touch.

Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability

#147

Post by random_savv »

SoftTalker wrote: post #103
Waterluvian wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To offer a data point (not a tribalist argument): GitHub Actions being down this often is still less expensive than the cost of switching everything somewhere else. Would rather have my team walk away from the PRs and do other tasks than have engineering effort, meetings, design pages, scheduling, etc. for switching over. This is annoying and I'm here because it's down. But it would have to be far worse to come close…

A case study in vendor lock-in.

For what it's worth, we switched some of our actions to a self-hosted Woodpecker instance, and although there were a few kinks to iron out, it works better overall (for example, because of better caching on that single instance, our docker images build faster).

Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability

#148

Post by IshKebab »

m132 wrote: post #86

At this point maybe they should consider sending out announcements when it is working instead

I once saw a sign at a railway station in the UK that actually did say "normal service will be operating between the 12th of July and 18th of August" (or something like that). Made me laugh. At the time Anglia Railways had a rail replacement bus literally every weekend.

I thought they should rename to Anglia Busways and have bus replacement trains instead.

Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability

#149

Post by 0xbadcafebee »

Isaackoz wrote: post #118
opiniateddev wrote: post #85

Given the recent history of outages, I wonder how many are seriously considering moving off GitHub for anything other than code hosting. I mean actions / workflows.

What would you guys recommend as an alternative? Both hosted and/or self hosted

WoodpeckerCI for DIY, Drone.io for paid support. Self-hosted, OAuth login, repo-permission-based authorization, container-native design, easy web UI, optional RDBMS, supports many platforms. All the core features needed for scalable CI, deploy as few/many as you want for multiple teams, small enough to easily run on one box for one repo. Nothing else is as simple, easy, powerful, compatible.

Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability

#150

Post by blixt »

It would seem like GitHub is in a precarious situation.

We have many agents per employee working in parallel pushing way more commits than was humanly possible before AI, triggering GitHub actions a lot more than the workflows were built for, causing Actions costs to escalate (they really aren't cheap if you compare to hosting it yourself), meanwhile working with YAML workflows is just a pain, and just writing code would be so much more fun and AI compatible[1].

At the same time, GitHub has about ~3 different PR review UIs? And they're all half-bad? Any decently sized PR triggers their "optimized for large PRs" UI which jumps around randomly in my experience. If you don't get that UI and keep the scrolling one (there's an old and a new one btw) then god forbid you click a line number because at some point your browser will randomly scroll back to that line and it won't unstick. Now Linear[2] (and others) is replacing the PR review experience for the agentic era.

I'd love to see a solid AI first Git + CI + reviews.

[1] Cloudflare CI https://blog.cloudflare.com/ci-workflows/

[2] Linear PR reviews https://linear.app/changelog/2025-01-23-pull-request-reviews

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