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Software development with AI is starting to feel like cooking steak

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Re: Software development with AI is starting to feel like cooking steak

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Post by jaggederest »

ddoolin wrote: post #106
spiffytech wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know people who can cook a lot of food pretty well, but don't understand why they can't use a laser thermometer to check their meat. Knowing really is half the battle.

What I've really gotten out of this is that I'd like to learn how to use a (proper) meat thermometer when I make steaks.

Since this is HN, here's the maximum technology option: https://combustion.inc/

They have a thermometer with multiple sensors in it that finds the core temperature of the food you're cooking automatically, and predicts the rise in temperature over time. So the alarm goes off when it's time to pull and rest, which is absolutely amazing.

Re: Software development with AI is starting to feel like cooking steak

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Post by ge96 »

MostlyStable wrote: post #30

I take the point, but I think the author picked a poor analogy. Cooking even an excellent steak is actually not that hard. In fact, I'd argue that it's among the easiest things to master/make at a top level quality at home. Does it require some modicum of attention and understanding? Sure. But starting with a high quality cut, owning a meat-thermometer, and knowing about reverse searing is about all it takes to relia…

hehe I always turn mine grey but I have mini bella mushrooms on top

Re: Software development with AI is starting to feel like cooking steak

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Post by inglor »

cogman10 wrote: post #154
jaggederest wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Coffee is a good metaphor here too, because bad technique can ruin a good steak just as surely as good coffee. "knows how to use a meat thermometer and reverse sear" describes like 10% of the population or less, same with coffee - there are people who use a bad grinder and a not-regularly-cleaned Mr. Coffee with good beans and get gas station coffee, and there are people out there making solidly B+ class coffee using…

Perhaps I'm crazy, but I truly can't taste much of a difference between "good" coffee and "bad" coffee. I can certainly tell the difference between a good steak and a bad one.

That likely means that you've only had "bad" coffee. You're one of today's lucky 10,000 - go treat yourself to a decent cup of coffee it tastes completely different. The difference between a good steak and a bad steak is actually a good comparison.

Re: Software development with AI is starting to feel like cooking steak

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Post by jaggederest »

givemeethekeys wrote: post #160
jaggederest wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Coffee is a good metaphor here too, because bad technique can ruin a good steak just as surely as good coffee. "knows how to use a meat thermometer and reverse sear" describes like 10% of the population or less, same with coffee - there are people who use a bad grinder and a not-regularly-cleaned Mr. Coffee with good beans and get gas station coffee, and there are people out there making solidly B+ class coffee using…

I bet the same analogy can be applied to cooking a cucumber.

Pickling a cucumber sure has a lot of resemblance - a great cucumber is good fresh and great pickled, but a bad pickling brine can ruin even a great cucumber.

Re: Software development with AI is starting to feel like cooking steak

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Post by bigstrat2003 »

dom96 wrote: post #19

I hope and believe that some great companies and teams will use LLMs to build higher quality software. We built Electron because writing UIs using native desktop frameworks is tough. Is it still tough? Surely LLMs make it easier to use and so we will end up with faster and more native feeling applications. What about having a couple of ideas of what might make a feature feel good? Well now you can make multiple proto…

> We built Electron because writing UIs using native desktop frameworks is tough.

No, we built Electron because there are a huge number of people who are too lazy to learn anything outside of HTML/etc for creating a UI. It's not actually hard to make a UI using the native desktop frameworks.

Re: Software development with AI is starting to feel like cooking steak

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Post by jaggederest »

inglor wrote: post #163
cogman10 wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps I'm crazy, but I truly can't taste much of a difference between "good" coffee and "bad" coffee. I can certainly tell the difference between a good steak and a bad one.

That likely means that you've only had "bad" coffee. You're one of today's lucky 10,000 - go treat yourself to a decent cup of coffee it tastes completely different. The difference between a good steak and a bad steak is actually a good comparison.

Here's an obligatory Tom Scott + James Hoffmann episode:

I don't like coffee. Can James Hoffmann change that? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-iNAyu-ejo

Re: Software development with AI is starting to feel like cooking steak

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Post by midnightbobarun »

armchairhacker wrote: post #36

Sous vide The article is AI generated

It's a level of badly written that makes me think it could be a human, or it might just be an LLM that writes differently from a typical ChatGPT article.

It is slop though, either way.

Re: Software development with AI is starting to feel like cooking steak

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Post by blmarket »

MostlyStable wrote: post #30

I take the point, but I think the author picked a poor analogy. Cooking even an excellent steak is actually not that hard. In fact, I'd argue that it's among the easiest things to master/make at a top level quality at home. Does it require some modicum of attention and understanding? Sure. But starting with a high quality cut, owning a meat-thermometer, and knowing about reverse searing is about all it takes to relia…

Now it's steak, tomorrow it can be pasta, next year it can be watermelon kimchi.

Re: Software development with AI is starting to feel like cooking steak

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Post by bigstrat2003 »

hydrogen7800 wrote: post #37
haunter wrote: post #23

I prefer the other end of the curve (if that makes sense) where something is time consuming and hard to make at home YET you can get it incredibly cheap comparatively and in good quality in a restuarant. Ramen is the prime example of that.

Ramen may still be somewhat of a novelty where I live, and I would not call it cheap. Though now that I put that into words, a decent burger anywhere is about the same price..

Ramen restaurants are definitely not cheap in the US. I hear they are in Japan, though.
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