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What Happened to Talenti?

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Re: What Happened to Talenti?

#12

A premium brand that got significantly worse but didn't drop the price? Seems obvious that this is going to be a story about private equity or a similar acquisition, and indeed it is. https://www.worseonpurpose.com/ has a giant list of these, with a tracker that breaks down hundreds of once-premium brands and the exact changes that the companies that acquire the brands make to make the things cheaper and worse, capit…

And you must ask yourself, is the ability to sell your company to another company a benefit or should there be considerably stronger hurdles for this kind of thing?

> And you must ask yourself, is the ability to sell your company to another company a benefit or should there be considerably stronger hurdles for this kind of thing?

Distribution is a huge problem for small companies. So you almost have to sell to a bigger firm to get beyond a certain size.

Re: What Happened to Talenti?

#13

A premium brand that got significantly worse but didn't drop the price? Seems obvious that this is going to be a story about private equity or a similar acquisition, and indeed it is. https://www.worseonpurpose.com/ has a giant list of these, with a tracker that breaks down hundreds of once-premium brands and the exact changes that the companies that acquire the brands make to make the things cheaper and worse, capit…

And you must ask yourself, is the ability to sell your company to another company a benefit or should there be considerably stronger hurdles for this kind of thing?

The modern SV corporate model is:

- PRODUCT: The corporation

- RESOURCE: The users of the corporate software/hardware (which is actually resource feed)

- CUSTOMER: Investors/VC/PE/Megacorp

Re: What Happened to Talenti?

#14

Putting 2 servings of ice cream in a thick plastic jar was always a dumb gimmick.

>> Putting 2 servings of ice cream in a thick plastic jar was always a dumb gimmick.

One gimmick I quite detest is the use of highly concave bottoms some companies use, so as to reduce the volume of actual product. Similar to deep indentations orange juice bottles use as a "handle" but which actually exists to reduce the volume of juice.

Re: What Happened to Talenti?

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A premium brand that got significantly worse but didn't drop the price? Seems obvious that this is going to be a story about private equity or a similar acquisition, and indeed it is. https://www.worseonpurpose.com/ has a giant list of these, with a tracker that breaks down hundreds of once-premium brands and the exact changes that the companies that acquire the brands make to make the things cheaper and worse, capit…

- Launch amazing brand with tight/negative margins to drive heavy consumer adoption - Sell brand to megacorp/PE for hundreds of millions or billions. - Brand gets "optimized for cost" so buyer gets an ROI. - By the time the public has soured on the brand, the buyout has paid for itself plus profit. The solution would be to launch these products with high margin built in, but then everybody scoffs at the cost and you…

The best solution for everyone is to come up with a quality product that people like, price it fairly, and then don't enshittify it. Win-win!

Re: What Happened to Talenti?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

- Launch amazing brand with tight/negative margins to drive heavy consumer adoption - Sell brand to megacorp/PE for hundreds of millions or billions. - Brand gets "optimized for cost" so buyer gets an ROI. - By the time the public has soured on the brand, the buyout has paid for itself plus profit. The solution would be to launch these products with high margin built in, but then everybody scoffs at the cost and you…

The best solution for everyone is to come up with a quality product that people like, price it fairly, and then don't enshittify it. Win-win!

Not "everyone" -- if you're the owner of a successful ice cream brand who spent a decade grinding in the ice cream game, cashing out the brand equity and getting to live on a yacht might feel better.

Re: What Happened to Talenti?

#20

Looks like classic enshittification to me. It doesn't only apply to software and services.

A farmer was complaining to me that the quality of manure he gets to spray on his fields has declined as it now goes through some process which extracts certain apparently valuable chemicals from it first.

So even bullshit is getting enshittified.

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