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I have the 20x. I really never reach the limit anymore. I am a heavy user. How is that possible?
I agree with you. I am a 5x user; compared to 6 months ago, I rarely reach session or weekly limits. It got slightly slower, but fewer mistakes make up for it. Probably the commenter above is a heavy vibe coder launching a bunch of background agents to reread the base code over and over.
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#62FWIW, I have found Xiaomi’s MiMo-V2.5-Pro to be a pretty cost-effective alternative. https://mimo.mi.com/models/en-US/mimo-v2.5-pro While it won’t cover everything DeepSeek does, it handles sophisticated tasks quite well. I found it after spotting it on a chart of different models and it was listed as being near Deepseek v4 Flash’s price/performance levels. I have noticed by the way that DeepSeek’s API has been prett…
Curious: Which one?
> MiMo-V2.5-Pro to be a pretty cost-effective alternative ... I found it after spotting it on a chart of different models and it was listed as being near DeepSeek v4 Flash's price/performance levels.
MiMo v2.5 Pro is at DeepSeek v4 Pro price level (but consumes lesser tokens per task, so cheaper overall). DeepSeek v4 Flash costs ~3x lesser than the Pro variant!
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#63One thing I struggle with is the value proposition. One day on a specific task I'll feel like the model saved me a couple hours of work. Then days like yesterday, the model cost me half the day with context loss, repeating steps already completed, crashing/becoming unresponsive, making unpardonable mistakes in logic. Please don't tell me I'm holding it wrong.
It's not really possible to help without more information about the models you are using, the harness you are using, and how you use the harness. You haven't even provided enough information for us to know if you are using the right tool. Saying "the model" in relation to an LLM provider that offers several is like asking for help with using a Dewalt or Milwaukee to help assemble an cabinet. Are you cutting, drilling…
They do "unstuck" me sometimes. There is value in that. But the value is inconsistent - which was my original point.
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#66I'm using oh my pi with Kimi K3 as the planner and DeepSeek Flash 0731 as the implementer, with OpenRouter as the provider. Any suggestions for a better configuration? I mostly need Opus 4.6 + Claude Code alternative. I don't need Fable level capabilities, I add one new feature at a time and approve the code before shipping it. Then test and open a PR. Usually both Fable and Opus suggest dumb ideas but are good imple…
not related to your question directly, but noticed you mentioned oh-my-pi, can you share little bit more why you went with oh-my-pi and not install your own set of extensions? (asking because I was just looking at it to enhance my workflow, but feeling it has too many things)
Regarding Pi my position is that it is brilliant piece of software if you don't need extensions - give the model bash tool and let it do all it wants through it or use Pi as SDK for your own advanced harness or smth similar.
But Pi with extensions has two problems. First one: rather often they don't play well together. For example, if you want some adjustments A and B for the same tool and there are two extensions which do A and B, they will likely not work as expected when installed simultaneously. You could say that it can be solved by adjusting extensions or just generating your own - yes and it is the second problem. Like any piece of code you own and use, you have to maintain it. Bug here, incompatibility there and voila - you spend your precious time to work on harness instead of doing your job. Plus remember that vibecoders are not very responsible people, so Pi extensions registry is flooded by "use Pi to customize Pi" buggy one shot extensions.
With carefully developed set of extensions Pi would be better, like properly configured Arch Linux could be better than Linux Mint in the hands of power user. But considering how fast things are changing in this sphere, seems it is more optimal to take more bloated harness - with unneeded tools, too big prompts, etc - which will be effective on 90%, but do the actual job with that harness right now.
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It's all about trade-offs, do you want a bunch of extensions of varying quality from a bunch of developers, or do you want a bunch of extensions of varying quality from one developer?
Or the third path: use Pi to customize Pi. It’s pretty fast and easy, and now it does exactly what you want.
Re: DeepSeek planning to significantly raise prices
#68FWIW, I have found Xiaomi’s MiMo-V2.5-Pro to be a pretty cost-effective alternative. https://mimo.mi.com/models/en-US/mimo-v2.5-pro While it won’t cover everything DeepSeek does, it handles sophisticated tasks quite well. I found it after spotting it on a chart of different models and it was listed as being near Deepseek v4 Flash’s price/performance levels. I have noticed by the way that DeepSeek’s API has been prett…
> Good thing I invested in an eGPU! Curious: Which one? > MiMo-V2.5-Pro to be a pretty cost-effective alternative ... I found it after spotting it on a chart of different models and it was listed as being near DeepSeek v4 Flash's price/performance levels. MiMo v2.5 Pro is at DeepSeek v4 Pro price level (but consumes lesser tokens per task, so cheaper overall). DeepSeek v4 Flash costs ~3x lesser than the Pro variant!
https://tedium.co/2026/06/10/gigabyte-aorus-5060-ti-ai-box-e...
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It's not really possible to help without more information about the models you are using, the harness you are using, and how you use the harness. You haven't even provided enough information for us to know if you are using the right tool. Saying "the model" in relation to an LLM provider that offers several is like asking for help with using a Dewalt or Milwaukee to help assemble an cabinet. Are you cutting, drilling…
I'm speaking pretty generally here - the tasks vary, as do the models and the way I access them. The point I was making is that they are inconsistent hour to hour, much less day to day and require a very disciplined mindset to babysit, which is sometimes harder than the actual task in play. They do "unstuck" me sometimes. There is value in that. But the value is inconsistent - which was my original point.
It's probably not what you want to hear, but are you sure you were holding the tool correctly? At least with this tool, you can actually ask it :D