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the people deciding this are the ones selling the devices
I don't have issues with my Pixel running GrapheneOS in that regard. I have issues with goddamn banks doing that at the app level.
Pixels (barelly) running a binary-blob-heavy port of android is far from what is being discussed here. In fact, that is intended as a misdirection and you fell for it by bringing it in here.
I've come to the conclusion that I actually really like Android as an operating system, the internals seem remarkably well thought out and ideal for the mobile use case (so long as you're running a userdebug build with the ability to adb root in when needed), most of people's issues aren't really with Android (although Google reducing the AOSP release schedule isn't a good sign). I think the real problem is Google Pl…
I dunno, I wish Android had a cohesive backup strategy the way iOS does. iPhone is terrible but losing your phone and switching to a new is insanely easy, with all state back to exactly how it was before.
I have Furiphone and F(x)tec devices. They ought to work well as mobile Linux devices, but they very much do not. They are unbearably slow, which I attribute to poor storage I/O optimization and Phosh being an obese sloth.
I have a PinePhone. That was just a toy gadget and nothing of value as a daily driver. Another e-waste device.
I have a FuriLabs FLX1S. It is a complete pack that is mostly plug and play. The latest update improves a lot. Wayland layer works great for when you need to run an application that has no Linux equivalent, such as Kore. It still rough around the edges.
1) Chatty, SMS application, needs more features to better incorporate modern SMS communication protocols.
2) The phone dialer takes too long to start up.
3) The microSD path is hard-code so it does not play nice when being encrypted drive were /run path is used.
4) Gnome Files works better the the Index file manager but there is no proper tie-in for password management. This means you must enter your encrypted microSD password every time after a reboot.
5) Convergence station cannot handle an ultra-wide, 3440x1440, screen monitor.
6) Firefox has a buggy user experience were there is no way to hide the tabs listing or options popup from with-in the application. One must swipe out of the application into the desktop and go back to Firefox.
7) Some of the UI time out settings are too short. Such as watching a video in full screen mode. Press to show the controls and by the time you start engaging with them the controls auto-hide again.
8) Don't know of a way to export SMS history from Android and import to Linux.
Once it is a little more polished the FLXS1 will become my daily driver. It has become my Bluetooth music player. I also use it more than my actual phone daily.
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So you are stuck in the walled garden. Alternatively, you could find a bank not forcing the duopoly on you. Worked for me.
I don't particularly care for the messing around. I'm of an age now where I've done that and prefer to spend my time not working around self-imposed tech issues. Also, good luck finding a bank in the UK that can support that (without messing around with desktop web instead on mobile instead of the app).
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I don't particularly care for the messing around. I'm of an age now where I've done that and prefer to spend my time not working around self-imposed tech issues. Also, good luck finding a bank in the UK that can support that (without messing around with desktop web instead on mobile instead of the app).
Monzo in UK is fine with rooted and no Google Play. No idea how it would fare inside Waydroid though.
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Pinephone Pro had a very small developer community and thus quite undeveloped software. It was discontinued for this reason. Librem 5 is being developed by both a community and a company, so it's much more usable.
Pine really fucked up with the PPP. That, and a few other issues around that time really soured me on Pine as a company.
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I've been daily driving a Linux phone for three years. The suffering was real. It's mostly gone now, I love it and will definitely never go back.
Do you take photos or use Bluetooth? What's the experience like for multimedia SMS (assuming no RCS), Whatsapp, banking or other apps normal people expect you to use, or file transfer? Are there any devices that can do NFC?
In the past I used Bluetooth for keyboard and mouse when I connected the phone to a monitor. (I no longer do because the USB port on my L5 has broken down so badly that it can no longer maintain a DisplayPort Alt mode connection.)
I’ve never used Bluetooth for music or similar, it keeps stuttering horribly on my L5. No idea why it does that!
I’ve never used multimedia SMS either. Almost no one uses SMS or MMS in Germany. Signal barely works via the Electron app (and signal-cli), so that’s what I use for messaging. WhatsApp doesn’t work because I have no iOS or Android to tether it to.
I can’t use public transport apps, which is a shame because I live in a city center where I depend on public transport. I download my public transport ticket from a private API once a month via curl.
For file transfer, I mostly use rsync, Git, or Unison.
Banking only works thanks to a dedicated bank card reader. [1]
If they ever figure out how to get Linux onto a phone with a good camera, I'd pounce on it. I would be willing to put up with app issues and weird bugs and all the jankiness that comes with early adoption, but I simply can't give up being able to take really good photos with my phone.
Is this a good enough camera for you? https://social.librem.one/@dos/tagged/shotonlibrem5
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Still a thing with some of the Finnish banks, as I've recently learned. In my bank it costs ~20€ - unless you can't physically use a smartphone, in which case it's free. But you kinda have to know that it exists.
> unless you can't physically use a smartphone Like, because of a disability, or because you don't have a smartphone? In the latter case, would it work to just go to the bank with a dumb phone?
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Pine really fucked up with the PPP. That, and a few other issues around that time really soured me on Pine as a company.
Agreed. Despite endless assertions from someone that Pine and Purism are where we should place our hope for better mobile devices, I can't put my trust in either company. Their track records are too hard to overlook.
They deliver beyond that too, with support for Alt-DP over USB-C for instance, open schematics, parts obtainable from independent distributors of electronic components, available detailed datasheets, and external batteries that can be hot-swappable (at least on PPP, haven't checked the others).