How did they get Github Pages into “degraded performance”? Aren’t those just CDN stored static pages?
I believe Pages uses Actions under the hood for publishing, so in my head it sort of makes sense for these things to be affected in the same outage
GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability
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Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability
#32I love how even self hosted workers don't work during these outages - running jobs on their infrastructure being flakey is marginally acceptable, but the API to simply schedule workflows having this availability is mind boggling. Github just doesn't seem like a serious company anymore.
I'm not sure that it's that mind boggling. The entire complexity and value of GHA is not in the runners but the scheduler that the GH frontend hooks into and runners subscribe to jobs from. It's the most likely thing to fall over. '
If the scheduling was self hosted it would be inexcusable but you can always just connect whatever you want to webhooks.
Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability
#33Ever since Microsoft has taken this over are we even surprised by the downtime anymore? Piss up ... brewery ...
Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability
#34Are we even surprised anymore? Since microsoft (the IBM of its time) have taken this over all I can say is ... piss up ... brewery.
Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability
#35I love how even self hosted workers don't work during these outages - running jobs on their infrastructure being flakey is marginally acceptable, but the API to simply schedule workflows having this availability is mind boggling. Github just doesn't seem like a serious company anymore.
I'm not sure that it's that mind boggling. The entire complexity and value of GHA is not in the runners but the scheduler that the GH frontend hooks into and runners subscribe to jobs from. It's the most likely thing to fall over. ' If the scheduling was self hosted it would be inexcusable but you can always just connect whatever you want to webhooks.
The entire complexity and value of GHA is rent-seeking to keep the lights on for other things.
They have a strong motivation (self preservation) to continue to misunderstand the problem. If they did what is best for us, then we could avoid a substantial fraction of all GH subscriptions by using a FOSS tool to hit the Pareto frontier by replicating just enough GH services to watch commits and PRs.
Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability
#36I love how even self hosted workers don't work during these outages - running jobs on their infrastructure being flakey is marginally acceptable, but the API to simply schedule workflows having this availability is mind boggling. Github just doesn't seem like a serious company anymore.
I'm not sure that it's that mind boggling. The entire complexity and value of GHA is not in the runners but the scheduler that the GH frontend hooks into and runners subscribe to jobs from. It's the most likely thing to fall over. ' If the scheduling was self hosted it would be inexcusable but you can always just connect whatever you want to webhooks.
That "scheduling" is just a git hook and a message queue, maybe with some database updates in between with very clear boundaries that make sharding easy to reason about, assuming they have a sane architecture (they evidently don't)
Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability
#37I love how even self hosted workers don't work during these outages - running jobs on their infrastructure being flakey is marginally acceptable, but the API to simply schedule workflows having this availability is mind boggling. Github just doesn't seem like a serious company anymore.
GitHub implements self hosted runners by running a normal runner that passes the environment to your runner and then polls it. That's why they cost as much as the smallest GitHub-hosted runner.
This is no surprise given standard Microsoft operating procedure - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47616242
Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability
#38I love how even self hosted workers don't work during these outages - running jobs on their infrastructure being flakey is marginally acceptable, but the API to simply schedule workflows having this availability is mind boggling. Github just doesn't seem like a serious company anymore.
Microsoft is not a serious company anymore.
They never were. They were just really good at maintaining the bluster and backing it up with expensive lawyers. Now that they don't come in claws-first like they did when they were a NASDAQ rocket to the stars, it's easy to see.
Their MO was to court an executive and sell second-rate tools to them before the people who had to use them had a chance to say anything. It doesn't matter how much evidence you can provide to the contrary, once the million dollar deal is signed, you are going to be tasked with finding reasons to say that your executive was shrewd for buying this pile of junk and unfulfilled promises, and not an insane idiot sucking away your job satisfaction as fast as they can.
They did a lot of deals based on how their products would have features their competitors already have 'soon' when they haven't even started them, and a long track record of taking 3 major releases to get from something to good, and then breaking everything again by doing a 4th major release that re-imagined everything and made it horrible again.
I'm not going to claim that Apple was or is a panacea. Apple doesn't use vaporware which is big, and their Cycle of Awful is 2 releases instead of 3. You could afford to skip 1 waiting for the next even-numbered version, instead of being 2 versions behind and getting pressed to upgrade.
Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability
#39I love how even self hosted workers don't work during these outages - running jobs on their infrastructure being flakey is marginally acceptable, but the API to simply schedule workflows having this availability is mind boggling. Github just doesn't seem like a serious company anymore.
gitlab-ce can run all the integration tests in docker et al.
Sitting on Github these days is the same as sticking to twitter a decade ago, expect next mecha hitler, I suppose.
Re: GitHub Actions and Pages are experiencing degraded availability
#40Are there any other CI providers that offer free cloud-hosted Windows runners? Or has Microsoft made sure (through Windows licensing terms and pricing) that it's not possible to compete with their own CI offering? Edit: CircleCI seems to offer 750 minutes/month (whereas GitHub offers 1000 minutes/month).
You can always pay for it, use your own machine, use a VM on your own machine, or if you are developing non-slop FOSS, ask Codeberg.