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A handful of cities have replaced Flock with Axon

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Re: A handful of cities have replaced Flock with Axon

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post #10

Prediction: Flock acquires Axon.

Prediction: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49053193 Axon just replaces Flock in some places. But I forgot to say that it probably doesn't matter much, and that whatever anyone resents about the whole thing, will just get worse.

These are literally city councils in many places. They're not our overlords.

Re: A handful of cities have replaced Flock with Axon

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post #9

> One key feature of Flock is its national lookup tool. > Axon, simply, does not have a national network. Meaning that it would not be possible for cops in one jurisdiction to search cameras across the country. [...] Police departments using Axon can enter into data sharing agreements with each other, though. > Denver, just like the City of Ferndale, explicitly mentioned this lack of this national network as part of…

it took Last Week Tonight years to get these records in one particular case

Re: A handful of cities have replaced Flock with Axon

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post #3

Prediction: Flock acquires Axon.

They're a public company with a $50B market cap. That's not going to happen. The direction would be the other way around. Axon is showing that they want the market, that they can build the tech themselves, and that they can leverage their extensive existing relationships with law enforcement and municipal governments as sales channels.

Correct directional analysis - but Axon already has competing products and is demonstrating here that they don’t need to acquire Flock to take market share. I am very doubtful of an acquisition.

Re: A handful of cities have replaced Flock with Axon

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post #3

Prediction: Flock acquires Axon.

They're a public company with a $50B market cap. That's not going to happen. The direction would be the other way around. Axon is showing that they want the market, that they can build the tech themselves, and that they can leverage their extensive existing relationships with law enforcement and municipal governments as sales channels.

My city has a contract with Flock, but the rest of their tech “stack” is Axon based. I’ll be surprised if they don’t change ALPR to Axon at first chance.

Re: A handful of cities have replaced Flock with Axon

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post #5

Vendor doesn't matter. The same issues will exist. Public safety is all about aggregating data to "operationalize" it now, so all vendors will be collecting data and sharing it with all customers just like Flock. The only benefit is that for the moment, other vendors' networks are small compared to Flock.

republicans got their government small enough that business and religion can drown it.

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Re: A handful of cities have replaced Flock with Axon

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Prediction: Flock acquires Axon.

Axon is a public company with market cap of $50B. It is an incumbent with a huge business in bodycams and tasers with a huge number of US police departments. Flock has a $7.5B valuation at it's last funding round, and is the new comer.

More likely for Axon to acquire flock than the other way around.

Re: A handful of cities have replaced Flock with Axon

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post #9

> One key feature of Flock is its national lookup tool. > Axon, simply, does not have a national network. Meaning that it would not be possible for cops in one jurisdiction to search cameras across the country. [...] Police departments using Axon can enter into data sharing agreements with each other, though. > Denver, just like the City of Ferndale, explicitly mentioned this lack of this national network as part of…

This is a step in the right direction. Everyone hates public surveillance until they become the victim of a crime, but it's critical that the surveillance is owned and controlled fully on an appropriate level.

You should fully own and control your home security cameras. Right now many homeowners are shipping their data to national datacenters.

Municipalities should fully own and control their public security cameras, on municipal datacenter resources.

Data sharing / federation should always be intentional and time-bound. It should be impossible for a small town cop to unilaterally access security records from a random city he has no jurisdiction in.

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