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Of course. Did I suggest otherwise? I merely made a (to me) amusing observation about the modern, somewhat confusing nature of so-called “ownership.”
Humm, it's not particularly confusing to me. I guess i just dont get it. When I rent an apartment or car, I still refer to it as mine without conflating the two. Is this an autistic thing?
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Yes, it matters to me, because I'm curious.
It seems likely they retain the whole video for a bit, but that is a huge amount of data, so then it's better to finger print and timestamp and toss the video after x days.
They describe it as a "motion activated camera" but I think it's pretty clear they're just recording 24x7 (but probably not uploading! most of the time!)
I'm guessing some on-device logic does the "motion capture" logic. What software then decides an "object of interest" and decides how to hash it? Are the still frame(s)/video sent to a server for analysis, or is that done on-device?
We know they store and catalog vehicles based on license plates and other bits of metadata. But what is uploaded, where does the processing happen, what is actually stored, etc?
Obviously it's a camera so it's trivial to turn it into a facial recognition camera, but does the on-camera software need to be updated for this to happen, or can it just be done server-side? Are they already retaining stills and videos of people on purpose (rather than just incidentally), but not _yet_ cataloging it (officially?)
Anyway. I'm curious what the public answer to all of these questions is, and then, obviously, I'm curious what's _actually_ happening behind the scenes. We know what can happen, but there are a lot of things we don't know for sure.
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But it's a fallacy to say all are wife beaters, like the parent said.
Recontextualized: *A person who chooses a career centered around the use of force is more likely to use force in their personal life*. Ahdunno, where's the lie?
Don't know, right there? I did martial arts and beat many people up, I even enjoyed it on many occasions. Doesn't mean I beat people in other contexts. It's called compartmentalizing.
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Being a cop is a choice. Being black is not.
But it's a fallacy to say all are wife beaters, like the parent said.
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> Camera data is owned by the police department and permanently deleted after 30 days There's so much going on in that sentence! What a thing of pure PR beauty. What does "owned" mean in this sentence? Probably fairly little. What data does it even refer to? Just the actual video footage? Does the statement include derived data like license plate reads or ML models? And surely if data is flagged as relevant to an inv…
Yes, the police own the videos they take of you? Like LLM companies own the models they digest from the texts they don't own?
If the local police department were legally required to turn over all their computers and servers, it would only contain a fraction of what their contractor captured.
The contractor’s employees have also been proven to abuse access to the contractor’s video files across the nation. Something the local police department has little to no control over.
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Recontextualized: *A person who chooses a career centered around the use of force is more likely to use force in their personal life*. Ahdunno, where's the lie?
> where's the lie Don't know, right there? I did martial arts and beat many people up, I even enjoyed it on many occasions. Doesn't mean I beat people in other contexts. It's called compartmentalizing.
Cop culture nationwide is toxic as fuck. Can’t say the same about martial arts culture.
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It might be deleted at the PD, does not mean it wasn't uploaded to Flock DCs for metadata analysis and retained there.
yep it's pretty easy to scan a frame and store the info as "blue car 17:25:36 20260805 WXC7868" and toss the video info if all you want is civilian tracking.
Find flock cameras near you here! https://maps.deflock.org/
Heads up though: not every camera on that map is Flock. In my town, only a couple of Flock cameras are in place, on private property (Lowes is a big user). All the others are owned by my local police department.
From deflock.org itself:
> Flock is not the only ALPR vendor, and other vendors still participate in similar practices. See this list of other common ALPR vendors.[1]