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Re: DeepSeek planning to significantly raise prices

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Well it was nice while it lasted. Built so much stuff for basically free. I can only thank them for that. I guess this means that this powerful model for very cheap concept does not work?

It was insane how much you could get done for a couple of dollars. The good times never last.

Good grief, you guys make it sound like like they're going up 100x. I'm pretty sure it will continue to deliver good value.

Re: DeepSeek planning to significantly raise prices

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s all about the cache prices. Those dominate usage, cached tokens are easily >90% if not >95% of all used tokens.

Yes, but I'm not sure. They recently dropped cache prices 10 times. Why would they rudder back after only a few months?

Don’t know but that’s not my point. My point is that even small absolute value changes in cached token prices will have massive impacts on final cost because of the sensitivity on it. If v4 flash cache prices go from 0.0028 to 0.01, the absolute change looks not that big (and would be a rounding error for input and output costs) but it would explode actual usage costs.

Re: DeepSeek planning to significantly raise prices

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I'm using oh my pi with Kimi K3 as the planner and DeepSeek Flash 0731 as the implementer, with OpenRouter as the provider. Any suggestions for a better configuration? I mostly need Opus 4.6 + Claude Code alternative. I don't need Fable level capabilities, I add one new feature at a time and approve the code before shipping it. Then test and open a PR. Usually both Fable and Opus suggest dumb ideas but are good imple…

Are you using Kimi w/expectation of ZDR? Their EULA is “we use your data and train on it unless you negotiate something with us privately”

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Re: DeepSeek planning to significantly raise prices

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I'm using oh my pi with Kimi K3 as the planner and DeepSeek Flash 0731 as the implementer, with OpenRouter as the provider. Any suggestions for a better configuration? I mostly need Opus 4.6 + Claude Code alternative. I don't need Fable level capabilities, I add one new feature at a time and approve the code before shipping it. Then test and open a PR. Usually both Fable and Opus suggest dumb ideas but are good imple…

I'm curious what kind of prompts people are doing to get 'dumb' ideas out of Fable

Re: DeepSeek planning to significantly raise prices

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Even if DeepSeek is better than the American models, I won't be using it unless there is a flat-rate monthly plan. This is only real way it's useful. If not, the cost outweighs whatever value I might have gotten from it.

lol it doesn't.

I put 10 bucks on DeepSeek almost 3 months ago.

I still have 2 bucks there. I think I used so far something in the vicinity of 300M tokens total.

Even if they double their price it is still cheaper than US models on their flat rate plans, and I don't get locked out for expiring the quota.

Re: DeepSeek planning to significantly raise prices

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- The Launch: DS 4 officially releases - The Big Promise: Announces a major price cut for Summer 2026, powered by cost savings from a shift to Huawei chips - The Hype Train: Launches a flash promotion cutting prices in half, follows up by announcing the 50% discount is now permanent - The Reality Check: Summer arrives, and Huawei's chips flops - The Retreat: Forced to quietly reorder Nvidia chips - The Damage Control…

This fanfic was peak HN

Re: DeepSeek planning to significantly raise prices

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I'm using oh my pi with Kimi K3 as the planner and DeepSeek Flash 0731 as the implementer, with OpenRouter as the provider. Any suggestions for a better configuration? I mostly need Opus 4.6 + Claude Code alternative. I don't need Fable level capabilities, I add one new feature at a time and approve the code before shipping it. Then test and open a PR. Usually both Fable and Opus suggest dumb ideas but are good imple…

I'm curious what kind of prompts people are doing to get 'dumb' ideas out of Fable

It's usually one of two things. First, I say I want to build this system solving this problem with these requirements, what do you suggest? It suggests X, then I say, "Hmm, why not Y?" and it goes, "Oh yeah, Y is better," etc.

It's similar to the situation where you ask whether you should walk or take the car to go refill the car with gas. I feel LLMs have a linearity embedded in them that prevents them from finding non-linear, smart solutions, especially when data is scarce. They can probably get it done, but with far more complex solutions, which increases the risk of ending up with a crazy complex codebase when it could have been much simpler and more elegant.

The other situation is when I spot a problem or a feature change that's needed after experiencing the product, and I ask how to change the codebase, it suggests something, I say "why not this other thing," and then we do the other thing.

Re: DeepSeek planning to significantly raise prices

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I'm using oh my pi with Kimi K3 as the planner and DeepSeek Flash 0731 as the implementer, with OpenRouter as the provider. Any suggestions for a better configuration? I mostly need Opus 4.6 + Claude Code alternative. I don't need Fable level capabilities, I add one new feature at a time and approve the code before shipping it. Then test and open a PR. Usually both Fable and Opus suggest dumb ideas but are good imple…

not related to your question directly, but noticed you mentioned oh-my-pi, can you share little bit more why you went with oh-my-pi and not install your own set of extensions? (asking because I was just looking at it to enhance my workflow, but feeling it has too many things)

I just didn't want to spend time configuring an harness

Re: DeepSeek planning to significantly raise prices

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I'm guessing this is almost entirely about the incredibly low cache read prices. Few have come close to them, nothing has a bigger effect on (a typical) session price, and with the price of RAM right now, they have to be the biggest pain point for them right now? A 10x increase in cache read would be a significant increase, yet would still keep them cheaper than every other provider of their model (at least based on…

Yes exactly this. Even a significantly higher price will mean they're way cheaper than rivals. I wouldn't make any changes until we see exactly what the price rises are.

Re: DeepSeek planning to significantly raise prices

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

not related to your question directly, but noticed you mentioned oh-my-pi, can you share little bit more why you went with oh-my-pi and not install your own set of extensions? (asking because I was just looking at it to enhance my workflow, but feeling it has too many things)

It's all about trade-offs, do you want a bunch of extensions of varying quality from a bunch of developers, or do you want a bunch of extensions of varying quality from one developer?

Or the third path: use Pi to customize Pi. It’s pretty fast and easy, and now it does exactly what you want.
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