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Re: Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2

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Post by j_maffe »

arolihas wrote: post #194
simonw wrote: post #173

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I just cannot comprehend this level of corporate villainy that boils down to: Let's have two pricing levels. One will be 12.5x more expensive than the other. For the cheaper one, we will get their express permission to train models on their inputs. For the more expensive one, we will still treat their data EXACTLY the same, but we'll lie to them and say that we won't. I've checked in with legal and they raised their…

No one has to say it and plan it out loud. But the data will be sitting there. The incentive to improve the model for enterprise use will only get stronger. It doesn't take much for one engineer or team to go rogue to hack a benchmark. There was a whole cheating controversy with llama 4.

What does cheating benchmarks have to do with breaching financial user agreements? To use your argument: all it takes is one whistleblower to get the company sued for billions of dollars.

Re: Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2

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Post by drob518 »

sgt101 wrote: post #193
ray_kay777 wrote: post #52

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This makes it a very interesting alternative to Deepseek for personal work where I don't care about the training - judging by the AA benchmarks it seems like overall cost per task is similar to the new Deepseek Flash but with better benchmarks (and inbuilt vision capabilities).

Do you know a good place for accessing the full sized chinese models but hosted not in China?

For Deepseek specifically, OpenRouter has a number of non-Chinese providers. Pricing varies.

Re: Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2

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Post by ignoramous »

simonw wrote: post #175
teiferer wrote: post #133

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How does money change that trust? They certainly have breached their word on this in the past (for non-paying users of Facebook).

Because they didn't have a financially backed contract with those non-paying users.

This is what the Muse Code launch blog post says:

  We're also beginning to accept requests for zero data retention. Contact Meta sales to request this.
https://developer.meta.com/ai/resources/blog/build-with-muse...

Re: Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2

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Post by drob518 »

tristanj wrote: post #42

Meta is offering a 10x discount on input ($0.10 vs. $1.25/Mtok) and 20x discount on output ($0.20 vs. $4.25/Mtok) if you opt in to let them train on your data. https://developer.meta.com/ai/models/muse-spark/

Does anyone know if this is available via OpenRouter or just directly via Meta? I've looked on OpenRouter and it just shows the standard pricing with a single provider. Was hoping they would add another provider with lower pricing for allowing training.

Re: Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2

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Post by moonu »

no-name-here wrote: post #113
moonu wrote: post #93

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I've been surprised by the reception to this, as OpenAI, for a while now, has had free API usage when data sharing is enabled ( https://help.openai.com/en/articles/10306912-sharing-feedbac... )

I enabled all data sharing settings but still don’t have a message about free use on that screen - the help page says free tokens are available to “some” users - is that 1% of users, 40% of users, etc? Does your screen have the message that you’re getting free tokens? https://platform.openai.com/settings/organization/data-contr...

Yeah, I have it enabled for just one of my projects, and it says "You're enrolled for complimentary daily tokens." Haven't been billed for any usage with this. Their tooltip doesn't mention the newer models, but it works for those too. I used them in a recent project that I knew wouldn't hit the rate limits. Not sure how eligibility is decided though.
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