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I added a real-time chat to my blog, people used it to attack me

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Re: I added a real-time chat to my blog, people used it to attack me

#53

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Neuralink will hopefully filter that out client side /s If your audience is more than a handful of people, what's the purpose of chat?

To get the handful of people to collaborate and hopefully bring their friends. It's currently at 160 and climbing, no longer a handful, so it seems to be working.

What I mean is that I get the purpose of chat when the target audience is a small group of people that might have a reason to talk to each other.

Re: I added a real-time chat to my blog, people used it to attack me

#54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Neuralink will hopefully filter that out client side /s If your audience is more than a handful of people, what's the purpose of chat?

To get the handful of people to collaborate and hopefully bring their friends. It's currently at 160 and climbing, no longer a handful, so it seems to be working.

The counter seems broken. It jumps from 100 to 250 then back down to 120. It did that a few times while I was reading.

Re: I added a real-time chat to my blog, people used it to attack me

#55
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But then one asshole can denial of service your chat very easily

Yeah, shutting down to that specific browser fingerprint would be the better way. Sometimes, being able to recognize a user has it's benefits for good /s

Or just drop websocket connection to them.

Refreshing pages to establish connection again is semi easy for someone who made a honest mistake (and Could make them more cautious), but if someone wants to trigger web-socket disconnect all the time, it would become cumbersome.

Add something like fail2ban, and you're set enough against passing trollers, but not interesting enough to draw attention from people that like the challenge.

Re: I added a real-time chat to my blog, people used it to attack me

#56
post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But then one asshole can denial of service your chat very easily

Yeah, shutting down to that specific browser fingerprint would be the better way. Sometimes, being able to recognize a user has it's benefits for good /s

But don't let them know they've been shut down, use a shadowban.

Re: I added a real-time chat to my blog, people used it to attack me

#58

The social web has become the adversarial web, unfortunately. You have to have a huge squelch knob if you want any meaningful signal now.

Ages and ages ago I had a guestbook, forum and chatroom on my site just because I could, just because it was fun. I think only one other person ever used it, though. But the possibility of having a random interaction with someone was what made it interesting.

Now my comments feed is my curated Mastodon account, very much a filter for nonsense. I wouldn't even think of putting a chat up on my site, it would almost entirely be bots, and then trolls. There's literally no point in trying to interact with people online anymore without some kind of curation or moderation, every possible interaction has to be treated as hostile.

Re: I added a real-time chat to my blog, people used it to attack me

#59
post #27

The chat is still there in the corner of this post, with people typing nasty shit into it. Well have fun delving into programmatic censorship I guess. Or just take it out. If you take the former path and post about trying to fix it here then I'm sure you'll get a lot more free testing of your attempts to enforce civility through regex or whatever. Enjoy learning about the Scunthorpe problem.

Looking at the last few minutes of messages, I get the feeling that all it takes is a handful of motivated (i.e. jobless) malicious individuals to make an entire community or a corner of the Internet look like it has devolved into barbarism.

By my recollection the devolution started around 30 years ago.

Re: I added a real-time chat to my blog, people used it to attack me

#60

From the earliest days of websites allowing text input from users, this has been a thing. The same with any website that allows you to draw things, it will quickly show people drawing crude (in content not skill) objects. This is just human nature. Once people realized you could use these forms as attack vectors, we were off to the races. Now that bots can do it for you, I'd only imagine the time before first bot usi…

Exactly. I remember a website from the late 90s that let anonymous users control an LED sign in some shopping mall in Japan. More often than not there were things like swastikas and penises on the board. This type of behavior is nothing new, unfortunately.
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