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US beef prices have soared but farmers aren't making more money

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Re: US beef prices have soared but farmers aren't making more money

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I very much disagree that it's a worse product.

why weren't you always eating pork then? (I like both, prefer beef usually but buy pork often, dislike how hogs are treated tho compared to cows)

> why weren't you always eating pork then?

That's not what they said.

Re: US beef prices have soared but farmers aren't making more money

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Animal agriculture is a key driver of climate change: https://sentientmedia.org/how-does-livestock-affect-climate-... Along with the high price, that's one more reason to not buy it.

There’s research now that high density rotational grazing does the opposite.

Link?

Re: US beef prices have soared but farmers aren't making more money

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The amount of beef eaten per person per year in the USA is absolutely insane anyway: USA - 37kg/capita UK - 18kg/capita We're not exactly shy of roast beef on this island either - the French nicknamed us "rosbifs" for a reason.

According to the Economist magazine, the global problem is Chinese people eating more meat.

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Re: US beef prices have soared but farmers aren't making more money

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The amount of beef eaten per person per year in the USA is absolutely insane anyway: USA - 37kg/capita UK - 18kg/capita We're not exactly shy of roast beef on this island either - the French nicknamed us "rosbifs" for a reason.

I don't remember when I first found out, but it blew my mind that sausages in the US are typically beef. Like, what? Sausages are like quintessentially pork products. Like the whole point is that you have a lot of off cuts of a cheap meat and you make sausages. Beef sausages? Yeah, that's like a step change in wealth, haha.

Re: US beef prices have soared but farmers aren't making more money

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I very much disagree that it's a worse product.

I knew a man who worked in the food industry for forty years. He told me to never eat U.S. pork the way it is processed today.

Anyone that truly knows how the sausage is made, so to speak, will tell you that in any country. Meat processing isn't pretty in any form.

Re: US beef prices have soared but farmers aren't making more money

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> A new pick-up truck that once cost $40,000 now runs to $100,000. A wooden fence post has gone from about $6 to as much as $19. A quarter-mile roll of barbed wire has doubled, from $60 to $130. Everything he uses day to day, he says, has jumped in price since the Covid pandemic. I know why pick-ups have gone up in cost (though I don't think it's quite to 2.5x levels like suggested here since the pandemic), but woode…

> but wooden posts and barbed wire

Less clear? Check your tariffs.

Re: US beef prices have soared but farmers aren't making more money

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The amount of beef eaten per person per year in the USA is absolutely insane anyway: USA - 37kg/capita UK - 18kg/capita We're not exactly shy of roast beef on this island either - the French nicknamed us "rosbifs" for a reason.

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Re: US beef prices have soared but farmers aren't making more money

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Animal agriculture is a key driver of climate change: https://sentientmedia.org/how-does-livestock-affect-climate-... Along with the high price, that's one more reason to not buy it.

A person eating one single hamburger uses more water than an entire year of LLM use for the same person. Yet we are very concerned about water use in data centers, but nobody cares about McDonalds.

Re: US beef prices have soared but farmers aren't making more money

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Animal agriculture is a key driver of climate change: https://sentientmedia.org/how-does-livestock-affect-climate-... Along with the high price, that's one more reason to not buy it.

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Where I can learn more about the genetic need of people of Sámi heritage to eat animal food?

When I tried to search for the details, I found only that it was a traditionally meat heavy diet.

Re: US beef prices have soared but farmers aren't making more money

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> it's less clear why those are so much more expensive now. It's basically, because everything else has gotten more expensive. Labor + fuel + wear and tear on equipment + raw materials. Inflation of a single thing, will have effects on anything down stream of that thing. And then there is the "greed" aspect, though overstated, where a company will see that costs have gone up in other sectors, so they raise their acco…

The "greed" aspect is always bullshit unless there is a specific instance of market failure like monopoly power or collusion. This has definitely happened, so I'm not discounting it, but in those cases folks should just say the issue is monopoly concentration or collusion. Saying "greed" comes from people who fundamentally believe economics doesn't exist, or don't understand it. Everyone in the economy is "greedy". C…

Because markets are neither rational nor perfectly elastic.
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