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may, anyone explain what is this

Basically, prioritization. It’s really that simple. Eschew obfuscation.

No, it's more about maximizing the utility function and finding the "shield" where you'd start getting diminishing return beyond that

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I wonder why LLM love this word so much. Same as mint, seam, tier.

A seam is a place where you can alter behavior in your program without editing in that place

“Chapter 4: The Seam Model”, Michael C. Feathers, Working Effectively with Legacy Code

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I am training for a marathon, and, as I increase both by distance and pace, I am always excited when I have a "Pareto run": a run along the Pareto frontier of me trying to maximize distance and speed. When explaining it to some coworkers, I stumbled on a fairly intuitive explanation: "I've run farther before, and I've run faster before, but I've never run _this_ far, _this fast." There was some pushback about why not…

Not relevant to pareto, but that's a really fun way to look at running. Not quite as fast as your pareto run shows, but I'll definitely keep that metric back of mind to keep the psyche high for running.

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I have a weightlifting spreadsheet with weight on the vertical axis and reps on the horizontal axis. The value of each cell is the estimated 1 rep max if I accomplish that lift. In theory if my e1RM is 100kg then I can lift any permutation of (weight,reps) that have the same e1RM. This is akin to knowing Pareto Frontier of my current strength. I use conditional formatting to color cells according to the probability t…

This is a cool way to gamify weightlifting. Cheers!

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Question: in auto racing, could one have a Pareto Front balancing single lap pace (qualifying optimization) and race pace (pace over an entire stint of e.g. 20+ laps)?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought it was some sort of Italian activism group. "The Pareto Front today claimed responsiblity for...."

...20% of the attacks causing 80% of the casualties?

As someone with an Italian grandmother and both a CS and Econ degree, I got a great laugh out of this joke! Bravo!

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I have a weightlifting spreadsheet with weight on the vertical axis and reps on the horizontal axis. The value of each cell is the estimated 1 rep max if I accomplish that lift. In theory if my e1RM is 100kg then I can lift any permutation of (weight,reps) that have the same e1RM. This is akin to knowing Pareto Frontier of my current strength. I use conditional formatting to color cells according to the probability t…

Could you please share this spreadsheet? I would really love to have my own version of this.

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Misread the title and got excited about a Pareto font, that is, the best possible font (presumably: distinct l/I, O/0, scores within error margins of the top readability and reading speed scores, widely available, etc.) Maybe in vein but did anyone already figure this one out? The closest I got was PT sans, open-licensed commissioned by the Russian ministry for communication (I found it surprising that a country that…

Trouble with fonts is sometimes monospace good, sometimes monodpace bad Anyways I'll namedrop Iosevka as perfect monospace font for working on 13" laptop

Seconding Iosevka, it's great for code! And you can get a version without ligatures.

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Question: in auto racing, could one have a Pareto Front balancing single lap pace (qualifying optimization) and race pace (pace over an entire stint of e.g. 20+ laps)?

You’d be looking at fuel level affecting choices of ride height, brake bias, etc. Possibly changes in line and distance travelled too. But, I’m curious how psychology can fit in here (or not. How do you measure it?). Driver concentration and confidence are important when trimming out aero or other adjustments for single lap flyers.

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post #28

Pareto front sounds like an interesting way to optimize, but it suffers from the curse of dimensionality just like anything else. As the number of objectives (dimensions) increases, the number of samples you need to cover the frontier increases exponentially. You will very rarely find solutions that actually dominate other solutions in many practical optimization scenarios. With 2 dimensions you have a 25% chance of…

The curse of dimensionality times the reality that good metrics are elusive or themselves a bit cursed. Many outcomes you're engineering or product-managing toward are quite squishy, hard to define, and hard to evaluate. "Easy to use" or "can be used within 10 minutes" or "cleans up this current order form" are easy to state but hard to rate and/or hard to actionably implement as metrics.

I've built large, deep product evaluation frameworks, and it is 100% of the time a running argument with stakeholders, inside and out, "well you should have measured it this way" or "I think we should be targeting X not Y" or "why didn't you consider Z in the metric??"

The Pareto Front in practice is squishy, fuzzy, and often quite moist and moldy.

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