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Re: Crime Pays but Botany Doesn't

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Post by sophacles »

picafrost wrote: post #64

I find it a real shame that botany doesn't receive a larger share of the curriculum in school. Plants are ubiquitous (obviously), they've been here well before we have and will remain here well after we've gone extinct. Despite that, in my experience, the average person knows very little about how and why they are organized into taxonomies and what characteristics that gives them. Seed pod? Square stems and opposite…

Too busy focusing on STEM to talk about stems.

(I know botany is a science but STEM has a inherent bias towards white collar job acquisition and nearly every jobs requiring plant knowlege are not that)

Re: Crime Pays but Botany Doesn't

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Post by schnevets »

kombookcha wrote: post #99
stinos wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

does anybody relate to this grown interest to plants and bird distinction with age? I do, and I've seen it in others, but from the limited data points I've seen there's no causal relationship with age. I.e. what I've seen is people largely oblivious of nature/ecosystems/flora/fauna sudenly becoming very invested in it, for various reasons, but this doesn't happen at or only beyond a certain age. For me it was around…

I think it's one of those things that for whichever reason you happen to get switched on to, and once you're attentive to it, you'll constantly be noticing and learning more - once that positive feedback loop of rewarded attention is going, you're off to the races. It's deeply rewarding to find the world around becoming deeper and more intricately connected. And you get to see more of it every day!

Feedback loop is right. I think there are parallels to the Blank Check podcast playing "The Box Office Game", where those cinephiles try to determine the Box Office Top 5 on the week a particular film was released (even though the players may have been in diapers or not even born on that particular week).

I have also seen this obsessive focus in sports fans: What was the half-season where Pat Maroon played on the New Jersey Devils as a rental? Well they made the playoffs that year which must have been Taylor Hall's MVP Award Season and ah yes! that had to be 2017-18!

Re: Crime Pays but Botany Doesn't

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Post by greenyhuman »

imagine a world with no plants, how sad it would be. i try to fill my house with as many plants i can, a constant cloning of plants, i have started collecting rocks. its m new daily habit. collect a few rocks. it makes my plants happy. and you know what, my plants like to be happy, if the plants are happy i am happy. are you happy ? there is a android application on github that identifys plants on device using local ai plant net or something www.github.com/jegly/box

Re: Crime Pays but Botany Doesn't

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Post by BigTTYGothGF »

contingencies wrote: post #49
DonHopkins wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also throw down some Psylocybe Allenii spores (family Hymenogastraceae) for even better measure! It thrives in otherwise hideous and tacky Home Depot woodchip landscaping beds in front of luxury yuppie condos, banks, and other nondescript, bleak looking buildings. They'll lift the veil on your own bullshit, and make you deal with whatever's harming you, like four weeks of therapy in four hours. The Ethnomycology of U…

ROFL. Banned in Australia. "Requires age verification." Next up: Ethnomycology of nanny state....

It's a North American fungus and you want to sow it in Australia? You really do need to listen to Joey Santore....

Re: Crime Pays but Botany Doesn't

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Post by BigTTYGothGF »

lo_zamoyski wrote: post #118

What an obnoxious post. Pro-tip: knock off the vulgarity and avoid making ignorant remarks that pander to presently fashionable sentiments. It doesn't "spice up" your text or make it more "fun" or "real", unless you mean "really bad". It makes it obnoxious, likely phony (I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here), and base.

> (I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here)

Please expand on why you think it being phony is a benefit.

Re: Crime Pays but Botany Doesn't

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Post by andai »

jojocool0501 wrote: post #80

My favorite Youtube channel. Please watch the latest https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDVcfSYcxc0 . It's an interview with an old botanist, who shares his wisdom and philosophy, remains engaged after decades of witnessing first hand America's nature getting destroyed. 2 main points: - destroyed old-growth forests, grassland, remnant prairies takes millennia to be back to what they were, not decades. Insects and other…

Brilliant, thanks for sharing.

I'm reminded of an article I read once, it seems to have gone offline, an interview with indie game dev Jason Rohrer. He said the city took him to court for not mowing his lawn. He ended up winning under the 1st amendment (the lawn was "free expression" or something...)[0]

I thought that was really interesting (and obviously wouldn't work in other countries).

The other day I walked around the neighborhood and found this massive patch of grass and weeds that had been mowed, and scorched by the sun, so it was just mostly dead. Barely 5 minutes away, the city had fenced out special plots and paid to have a bunch of weeds instlled, to help the bees. Comedy.

[0] Edit: Yeah it's deleted. I found backups though!

https://archive.ph/j9025

https://web.archive.org/web/20150315123808/https://www.esqui...

Re: Crime Pays but Botany Doesn't

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Post by giov4 »

dividedbyzero wrote: post #91
giov4 wrote: post #46

I think nature and plants always interested me since I was a kid. For example I loved to plant from seeds, see them grow, learn and explore a bit with curiosity my mum or aunt plants and when being out in the forest, but not a lot more than that. Later, while growing up, I noticed my brain noticing plants or tree details, auto mapping them to possible genre, trying to find out, trying to memorize... but not always vo…

I don't relate to it myself, but I see it in people around me. It appears that's something that may not be limited to but is very prevalent in adults with very high functioning autism.

what is very high functioning autism?

to me it sounds just more intelligent people that can see things average people cannot or don't care about, might be slightly biased :)

beside jokes is that defined somewhere? or is just that if somebody can focus and contextualize more things and details ends up in that "category"?

Re: Crime Pays but Botany Doesn't

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Post by badpun »

andai wrote: post #127
jojocool0501 wrote: post #80

My favorite Youtube channel. Please watch the latest https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDVcfSYcxc0 . It's an interview with an old botanist, who shares his wisdom and philosophy, remains engaged after decades of witnessing first hand America's nature getting destroyed. 2 main points: - destroyed old-growth forests, grassland, remnant prairies takes millennia to be back to what they were, not decades. Insects and other…

Brilliant, thanks for sharing. I'm reminded of an article I read once, it seems to have gone offline, an interview with indie game dev Jason Rohrer. He said the city took him to court for not mowing his lawn. He ended up winning under the 1st amendment (the lawn was "free expression" or something...)[0] I thought that was really interesting (and obviously wouldn't work in other countries). The other day I walked arou…

> I thought that was really interesting (and obviously wouldn't work in other countries).

I don't know about other countries, but in Poland you're just not required to cut down your lawn at all, unless it's a fire hazard (you have a lot of dead and dried up plants).

Re: Crime Pays but Botany Doesn't

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Post by graemep »

badpun wrote: post #129
andai wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Brilliant, thanks for sharing. I'm reminded of an article I read once, it seems to have gone offline, an interview with indie game dev Jason Rohrer. He said the city took him to court for not mowing his lawn. He ended up winning under the 1st amendment (the lawn was "free expression" or something...)[0] I thought that was really interesting (and obviously wouldn't work in other countries). The other day I walked arou…

> I thought that was really interesting (and obviously wouldn't work in other countries). I don't know about other countries, but in Poland you're just not required to cut down your lawn at all, unless it's a fire hazard (you have a lot of dead and dried up plants).

I think legal requirements are a US thing. I had only heard of it in HOA run places though.

Here in the UK there are no usually legal requirements, but it might be a social problem as your neighbours will not like it.

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