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Re: Why some people mow a lawn better than others

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Post by stackghost »

Hugsbox wrote: post #190
stackghost wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Depends where you live, what season, and what equipment. I live in the PNW where the grass grows crazy fast in the spring, and I use a reel mower since my yard is small. It needs to be done regularly, and I'm not even a "lawn guy".

East-coast of Canada, the grass grows fairly well throughout the spring and summer but I think mowing excessively is... well, excessive. But I live in a neighbourhood of predominantly seniors who wash their car and mow their lawn every fucking day, presumably because they have nothing better to do, so anytime I try to sit outside and enjoy the lovely summer days it's ruined by all the lawnmowers. Wouldn't be so bad i…

The problem with a reel mower is that if you let the grass get too long the reel mower won't cut it, so you pretty much have to do it every few days when it's growing fast.

Re: Why some people mow a lawn better than others

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Post by zahlman »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #173
zahlman wrote: post #168

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I don't follow. The title says "why some people mow a lawn better than others". Presumably, through getting people to play some interactive demo, they got some insight into the answer to that. Why can't they just use text to communicate that insight to me, instead of expecting me to go through the same demo? Why is there not any text after the demo describing the lesson learned? Or before, for that matter?

There is text after it. But you have to click the button to get there. The button is the main broken part without javascript. But like I said "the button would only be half-functional so I understand skipping it".

No, there is not "text after it". There is also no button.

https://files.catbox.moe/8nxbo5.png

The logos at the bottom are images from the page footer.

Re: Why some people mow a lawn better than others

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Post by zahlman »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #171
zahlman wrote: post #169

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It is not "pride". It is a constant annoyance that web site authors feel entitled to run their code on my machine, for purposes where it's egregiously unnecessary.

> egregiously unnecessary So are you going to admit your initial reaction was wrong here? Despite how this page could be improved (a warning and a partial conclusions view with javascript off), the core purpose of the javascript is to let you play the game and watch replays, something that is very basic automation and impractical to do without code.

It is egregiously unnecessary to expect me to play the game in order to present the finding. Or even discuss the finding.

I will not admit my reaction was wrong, because it was not wrong. If a submission is titled "Why some people mow a lawn better than others", it is completely reasonable to expect a JavaScript-disabled version of the page to display text which describes why some people mow a lawn better than others.

I did not click the submission title to watch replays, or even simple media animations. I clicked it expecting a theory of lawn-mowing to be conveyed.

Re: Why some people mow a lawn better than others

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Post by cortesoft »

hapticmonkey wrote: post #144
paradox460 wrote: post #20

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Plus mowing a lawn is meditative Copying another comment I made earlier When I was laid off a couple months ago, the first thing I did was go out and mow my lawn. One hour of simple, clean labor, with clear progress, goals, and solitude. It helped me stay out of a bad mental frame, and when I finished I went inside and sent out a few hundred applications Over the next several weeks, I spent a lot of time that wasn't…

Reminds me of this Kurt Vonnegut quote: > “(talking about when he tells his wife he’s going out to buy an envelope) Oh, she says well, you’re not a poor man. You know, why don’t you go online and buy a hundred envelopes and put them in the closet? And so I pretend not to hear her. And go out to get an envelope because I’m going to have a hell of a good time in the process of buying one envelope. I meet a lot of peopl…

This is why I order the envelopes online and then go for a walk.

Re: Why some people mow a lawn better than others

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Post by Dylan16807 »

zahlman wrote: post #192
Dylan16807 wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is text after it. But you have to click the button to get there. The button is the main broken part without javascript. But like I said "the button would only be half-functional so I understand skipping it".

No, there is not "text after it". There is also no button . https://files.catbox.moe/8nxbo5.png The logos at the bottom are images from the page footer.

> No, there is not "text after it".

Read the next sentence. You have to click the button to get there.

> There is also no button.

I keep saying the button is broken and I says it needs to show up on noscript. How can I be clearer?

Re: Why some people mow a lawn better than others

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Post by Dylan16807 »

zahlman wrote: post #193
Dylan16807 wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> egregiously unnecessary So are you going to admit your initial reaction was wrong here? Despite how this page could be improved (a warning and a partial conclusions view with javascript off), the core purpose of the javascript is to let you play the game and watch replays, something that is very basic automation and impractical to do without code.

It is egregiously unnecessary to expect me to play the game in order to present the finding . Or even discuss the finding. I will not admit my reaction was wrong, because it was not wrong. If a submission is titled "Why some people mow a lawn better than others", it is completely reasonable to expect a JavaScript-disabled version of the page to display text which describes why some people mow a lawn better than other…

You are allowed to skip the game.

But offering it is not egregiously unnecessary. The javascript, while flawed, is there for a valid reason.

> I did not click the submission title to watch replays, or even simple media animations. I clicked it expecting a theory of lawn-mowing to be conveyed.

They use the replays to convey it. Insisting on pure text is another layer of unreasonable insistence on how to do things.

Re: Why some people mow a lawn better than others

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Post by EdwardDiego »

codingdave wrote: post #188
EdwardDiego wrote: post #182

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> we still get monarchs Genuine question, I thought monarch larvae predominantly feed on milkweeds? Do you get milkweeds occurring naturally in your grass? Or are they feeding on something else?

Yes, we have patches of milkweed in the un-mowed areas - it was one of the primary reasons were started letting those areas go wild in the first place.

Oh, awesome! Good on you leaving their habitat for them.

Re: Why some people mow a lawn better than others

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Post by Hugsbox »

stackghost wrote: post #191
Hugsbox wrote: post #190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

East-coast of Canada, the grass grows fairly well throughout the spring and summer but I think mowing excessively is... well, excessive. But I live in a neighbourhood of predominantly seniors who wash their car and mow their lawn every fucking day, presumably because they have nothing better to do, so anytime I try to sit outside and enjoy the lovely summer days it's ruined by all the lawnmowers. Wouldn't be so bad i…

The problem with a reel mower is that if you let the grass get too long the reel mower won't cut it, so you pretty much have to do it every few days when it's growing fast.

Which is fine anyway, because a reel mower isn't a nuisance to your neighbours.

Re: Why some people mow a lawn better than others

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Post by zahlman »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #195
zahlman wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, there is not "text after it". There is also no button . https://files.catbox.moe/8nxbo5.png The logos at the bottom are images from the page footer.

> No, there is not "text after it". Read the next sentence. You have to click the button to get there. > There is also no button. I keep saying the button is broken and I says it needs to show up on noscript. How can I be clearer?

> How can I be clearer?

You can try understanding that it is not acceptable for the page to look like this with JavaScript disabled. There is no good reason why the "next sentence" can't just appear on the page, using the same technology (HTML) that the opening paragraph uses.

Re: Why some people mow a lawn better than others

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Post by zahlman »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #196
zahlman wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is egregiously unnecessary to expect me to play the game in order to present the finding . Or even discuss the finding. I will not admit my reaction was wrong, because it was not wrong. If a submission is titled "Why some people mow a lawn better than others", it is completely reasonable to expect a JavaScript-disabled version of the page to display text which describes why some people mow a lawn better than other…

You are allowed to skip the game. But offering it is not egregiously unnecessary. The javascript, while flawed, is there for a valid reason. > I did not click the submission title to watch replays, or even simple media animations. I clicked it expecting a theory of lawn-mowing to be conveyed. They use the replays to convey it. Insisting on pure text is another layer of unreasonable insistence on how to do things.

> You are allowed to skip the game.

No, I'm not. If I don't have JavaScript enabled, then I don't see the post-game content.

> But offering it is not egregiously unnecessary.

It hasn't been offered to me.

What is egregiously unnecessary is the requirement to enable JavaScript in order to read plain text explaining the conclusion. Because when one has actual conclusions, presenting them in plain text is trivial; doing it any other way is what requires additional effort.

> Insisting on pure text is another layer of unreasonable insistence on how to do things.

No, it is not. It is the most basic and fundamental principle of how the WWW works.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_enhancement

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