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Re: Discovery Loop

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In many cases, isn't the time-consuming part of experiments irreducible? E.g. breeding plants?

Or to take another example, Make Solar Energy Economical

How does Discovery Loop make this go faster in a way that a different group of scientists, also using frontier models, will proceed?

I'm sure Discovery Loop has considered this and has good answers to this question. I'd be interested in hearing more about this.

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#523

From Jeff's twitter post: > Our general approach is to automate the experimental loop. We think this approach is broadly applicable across many different fields of science and engineering. We’ll initially focus on ML research and engineering, but believe the approach can help with important subproblems in nearly every one of the fourteen NAE Grand Challenge problems. We think doing this well requires strong expertise…

1. Make Solar Energy Economical - Disallow fossil fuels 2. Provide Energy from Fusion - See 1 3. Develop Carbon Sequestration Methods See 1 4. Manage the Nitrogen Cycle - See 1 5. Provide Access to Clean Water - See 1 6. Restore and Improve Urban Infrastructure - See 1 7. Advance Health Informatics - See 1 8. Engineer Better Medicines - See 1 9. Reverse Engineer the Brain - See 1 10. Prevent Nuclear Terror - See 1 11…

Holy shit, you are so full of yourself. This is such a stupid take with zero nuance. As if banning fossil fuels will help with any of those things, besides the first one.

Little more than "Fossil Fuels are the root of all evil" performative bullshit.

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I don’t understand why all of these companies need to frame it like this. Why not a large amount of people doing an even larger amount of science?

When you define prosperity in large amount of people, it makes you sound like a communist, and America spent decades to avoid that. The other alternative is to sound like a capitalist, which is very much ok by today’s standards.

This is so interesting to me... Maybe it's because I grew up after (most of) the heavy anti-communist propaganda in the US, but the last thing I think of when I hear "communism" is "prosperity in large amount of people".

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> Between us, we have pioneered massive scale computing and led the creation of critical infrastructure, products, and foundational AI advances that the world relies on, including multiple generations of Google Search, Google Ads, Google News, Google Translate, Google File System, MapReduce, BigTable, Spanner, TensorFlow, Pathways, TPUs, AlphaChip, AlphaStar, AlphaCode, AlphaFold, Gemini, model distillation, mixture-…

Hmm word2vec doesn’t seem to belong to any on the four. Dean was a last coauthor of the paper.

You're looking for this paper:

https://arxiv.org/abs/1405.4053

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#527

From Jeff's twitter post: > Our general approach is to automate the experimental loop. We think this approach is broadly applicable across many different fields of science and engineering. We’ll initially focus on ML research and engineering, but believe the approach can help with important subproblems in nearly every one of the fourteen NAE Grand Challenge problems. We think doing this well requires strong expertise…

What is the most impressive thing Jeff has ever done?

I only see "co-created" "co-founded" "managed a team" - what did he actually do?

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Life's unfair, avoiding power concentration is a decent principle. If you grow up in the right place at the right time, how much should you be in control of everyone else's life?

There is no "should" there are only "is" or "is not" The universe has no need to be fair.

in addition, there is also "stupid" and "not stupid"

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They make many bold promises, but their core goal is neatly encapsulated on the website: "Imagine a future where a handful of people can conduct scientific research and engineering tasks much more rapidly, and with higher quality, than massive teams of scientists and engineers do today." This is the same goal as every other AI company out there. Automate away the human employees and let a small number of "people" (no…

Why shouldn't they? Also, wouldn't anyone with half a brain use the human-free system to produce another human-free system that was no longer controlled by the "small number of 'people'"?

So in computer science we have this thing called "distributed systems". It turns out that even if you buy the biggest and most powerful computer there is, all it takes is one problem with that one machine to make your system stop working. Instead, what people do these days is use lots of little computers to work together. That way, when one of them breaks, the system keeps going. Believe it or not, that's how google dot com works!

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Such a weird list. How is preventing nuclear terror an engineering problem?

And what about the terrorism that exists today?

Yup this was super weird to me. There are other equally likely "world ending" things that they chose to ignore of nuclear, such as bio-weapons. Very strange list..
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