Earlier quoted context omitted.
[flagged]
You can't just call the party you disagree with corrupt.
Are you saying the Trump administration isn't corrupt?
Not this Memphis issue, general corruption.
Nashville uses eminent domain to block data center near zoo
361–370 of 514 posts
Re: Nashville uses eminent domain to block data center near zoo
#362Earlier quoted context omitted.
One of the guys leading the effort is active on threads (probably twitter too). He has no interest in negotiating. He is gloating over his win hardcore and has very absolutist views when it comes to datacenters
Hat tip for the additional source. I have no love for people in this fight looking for a "total win/defeat". It is a dumb way to approach large construction projects. Can you share some links to the Threads account?
Here's one account, @rooey.wav
https://www.threads.com/share/BAQzYUI7Nf/
There's another account that I thought was something like @stopdatacenters but I'm having trouble finding it atm
Re: Nashville uses eminent domain to block data center near zoo
#363Earlier quoted context omitted.
>You think the standard of life you enjoy today is because of the triumph of local parochialism? My standard of life involves democracy and self-determination. Americans are 'pathetic' about that because it turns out at the end of the day liberty is a bit more durable of an idea than buying yet another pile of junk. If you think you can just throw fortune cookie economic slogans at people to convince them they want t…
[flagged]
> Is he forcing people to login to Instagram or Facebook?
Are you referring to the Facebook pixel?
Re: Nashville uses eminent domain to block data center near zoo
#364There is a medical office building near my house along my walking route. It has a fancy, detached, fully enclosed generator building. When the generators are running the place emits a really high-pitched whine.
I can hear it approaching from a couple blocks away. I'm sure my dog and other animals hear it much better than me.
Re: Nashville uses eminent domain to block data center near zoo
#365Earlier quoted context omitted.
It doesn't help that at least one datacenter operator and possibly more promised municipalities in Arizona that they wouldn't use their water and then secretly used millions of gallons. This in the middle of water shortages.
I don't know what timeframe we are talking about here, but 1 million gallons is how much 33 people in the US use in a year. It's really not that much water.
I think I'd rather 33 people get the water.
Re: Nashville uses eminent domain to block data center near zoo
#366Earlier quoted context omitted.
[flagged]
Do you have proof that people are bribing the federal government to ignore federal law? That seems like quite the accusation and I haven't heard anything about that.
> Do you have proof that people are bribing the federal government to ignore federal law?
Why does there have to be an actual exchange?
“For my friends everything, for my enemies the law.” — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Óscar_R._Benavides#Later_life
Re: Nashville uses eminent domain to block data center near zoo
#367There is a medical office building near my house along my walking route. It has a fancy, detached, fully enclosed generator building. When the generators are running the place emits a really high-pitched whine. I can hear it approaching from a couple blocks away. I'm sure my dog and other animals hear it much better than me.
> high-pitched whine.
Does it have to?
I meant, it is a very common problem with lots of complain. I bet modern electronic can do it much less noise.
Does HN know something in this area?
Re: Nashville uses eminent domain to block data center near zoo
#368Earlier quoted context omitted.
But data centers basically take land and resources and generate almost nothing for the local community. The jobs are minimal after the data center is built. It's a giant windowless box. I would much rather have a strip mall in my community. Strip malls often have local businesses as tenants (so money made by the business then gets spent in the community), and they provide services the local community can interact wit…
Property Tax revenue, and they are not a drain on services like schools, roads, fire department, police department etc. I'm watching this debate in a town that i am from and where I live. Our choices are pretty much be swallowed up by growth from neighboring cities and become a bed room community or solar farms and data centers. The downside with becoming a bedroom community is you risk creating a negative tax base.…
> The downside with becoming a bedroom community is you risk creating a negative tax base. where the cost of providing services is more than the properties bring with property taxes.
E.g.,:
* https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2020-5-14-americas-growt...
Re: Nashville uses eminent domain to block data center near zoo
#369I’m surprised that there is no discussion here about the practice of using NDAs to bypass / prevent residents of local communities from learning about data centers about to be built or being able to provide any kind of input via the democratic process before it’s too late and construction has already started.
People are royally pissed off by the sheer arrogance of these data center people and Silicon Valley assholes who think they can just impose their will on places.
Re: Nashville uses eminent domain to block data center near zoo
#370Earlier quoted context omitted.
Isn't that enough to rethink the construction - it takes a while to build a data center, and I would not be happy that I have to suffer with shitty water because a data center is being built for years.
What I mean is that it’s got nothing to do with data centers. Saying “data centers pollute water” is misleading, in these situations 1) we’re talking about people pulling unfiltered untreated well water 2) any building would have had exactly the same effect.
They’re buying up undeveloped land that would not have been developed for any other reason. If the only developer is a problem, then it doesn’t matter if all developers are a problem.