>An entire SimCity clone based on a different economy like this could be fun.
There's this example of such a game: https://store.steampowered.com/app/784150/Workers__Resources...
Show HN: Skyline Co-op is like SimTower, but built around democratic socialism
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Re: Show HN: Skyline Co-op is like SimTower, but built around democratic socialism
#22There's an incredible irony in using the most effective tool capitalism has produced to boost the power of capital, to make a game about socialism.
But not that new, "The capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them" is a quote attributed to Lenin, so >100 years old by now
https://quoteinvestigator.com/2018/02/22/rope/
...The earliest strong match located by QI appeared in 1955 within a periodical called “The Commonwealth: Official Journal of the Commonwealth Club of California”. The club is a non-profit public affairs organization. The quotation [by Major George Racey Jordan] appeared as a filler item.Re: Show HN: Skyline Co-op is like SimTower, but built around democratic socialism
#23Nice, this has a cute feel to it. I smiled about some of the gossip at the bottom. Tiny suggestions: make the space bar pause/unpause, and for my ears the background music could be way quieter compared to the sound effects - with the default settings I thought the game had no sound yet.
Will definitely play more in the evening!
Re: Show HN: Skyline Co-op is like SimTower, but built around democratic socialism
#24Cute game! Very CPU-hungry (in Firefox on Linux), maybe you can get it a bit more optimized. There are some annoying AI-isms ("the X is the goal not the Y"-- just tell me the X please). Is there a way to build anything on the ground floor, or is it just a big empty lobby? Feels like wasting a lot of space.
Thanks...I will work on optimizing that. There's also a Mac version you can download, but that wouldn't work in your case.
As someone else said, the lobby is the lobby - eventually the Assembly starts to meet there once you make enough progress, but that is about it.
Re: Show HN: Skyline Co-op is like SimTower, but built around democratic socialism
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Yeah, co-ops don't exist in capitalist places like NYC, right?
Re: Show HN: Skyline Co-op is like SimTower, but built around democratic socialism
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Most democratic socialist societies are capitalist, capitalism just remains politically subordinate rather than able to govern society unchecked.
Those would be social democracies.
No, social democracies are subservient to capital.
The whole modern democratic socialist movement as I understand it is primarily to fix exactly that issue.
Re: Show HN: Skyline Co-op is like SimTower, but built around democratic socialism
#27Nice, this has a cute feel to it. I smiled about some of the gossip at the bottom. Tiny suggestions: make the space bar pause/unpause, and for my ears the background music could be way quieter compared to the sound effects - with the default settings I thought the game had no sound yet. Will definitely play more in the evening!
Thanks for the feedback! If you hold the volume button it opens up sliders to adjust the music/ambient noise levels. I should make this more obvious, probably.
Re: Show HN: Skyline Co-op is like SimTower, but built around democratic socialism
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That cuts both ways - can people in the US vote for democratic socialism, or will the capitalists then create super PACs to influence elections, thus undermining the principle of one person, one vote?
This is nonsensical.
This PAC influence being putatively for buying advertising, to you know influence individual voters to their point of view? They can’t literally buy votes.
So votes only matter if they’re not influenced by PACs? Perhaps it’s more that if a voter agrees with a capitalist PAC then it’s no longer a valid individual vote? It smacks of anti-democratic value that the masses are too dumb to vote correctly.
Re: Show HN: Skyline Co-op is like SimTower, but built around democratic socialism
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
That cuts both ways - can people in the US vote for democratic socialism, or will the capitalists then create super PACs to influence elections, thus undermining the principle of one person, one vote?
So the socialists don't influence elections? they don't have speeches and advertising? News to me -- are you sure the majority want socialism? seems like many many people don't. Or is the election only "influenced" if it doesn't go your way?
I have no horse in that race as I don't live in the US. But reading today that in Michigan the democratic primary loser outspent the winner almost 10:1 truly baffled my mind. Stuff like this isn't even legal in most other democracies, i.e. in France all presidential candidates have to have equal TV time to present their respective positions.
Imagine how the political landscape in the US would look like if people's votes were actually equal.
Re: Show HN: Skyline Co-op is like SimTower, but built around democratic socialism
#30There's an incredible irony in using the most effective tool capitalism has produced to boost the power of capital, to make a game about socialism.
But not that new, "The capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them" is a quote attributed to Lenin, so >100 years old by now
This smells a bit closer to "We're capitalists, but we'd like to get some lift from the current socialist vibe". If that's the case, respect for skimming off the rubes.
If not, it's giving "We're tying ourselves up with the rope the capitalists sold us".