What am I missing in Zed is actually a "File History" - like in VS Code, which keeps a history of every time a file was saved to the disk, and it's very easy to review that history.
Now this DeltaDB goes way beyond that
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#252Why develop this when the core editor is almost unusable? On Linux wayland, copypaste is broken, the file manager is laggy and snippets do not trigger before the heavy hint logic is done. This is just on top of my head, the list is long
What exactly is broken with copy-paste? I've been using Zed on Wayland (official install, not flatpak and not terra) and had no issues with this.
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#253Earlier quoted context omitted.
They aren't proposing to replace git though. They are just attempting to make it simpler for developers to follow changes applied by an LLM in an ergonomic fashion. Not saying it will work well but I'm happy to see someone trying a new approach here.
I don't want someone "to make it simpler for developers to follow changes applied by an LLM in an ergonomic fashion". I want a text editor. I want "VScode without the bullshit". That's what I thought they were building.
I’m building an in-terminal IDE over at https://github.com/paradise-runner/toast that does this. No AI, no telemetry, just a text editor that has it all baked in and is easy on the eyes.
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#254Zed should focus on basics. When it focuses on basics Zed is good. https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/discussions/54150 failing to show newly created files and declining to provide a refresh button, instead adding a polling backend, breaks Zed on WSL. Why a new version control system? Why not git, jj, or another existing system?
Some random thoughts that I think are prevalent in a startup context:
- basics are easy
- everyone can do basics
- need to do the things that will bring in the next 1000 users.
- everyone already does the basics
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#255Whoever on the zed team came up with this must be coding with agents way more than i am, because it hasn't come up for me as something I'd really need yet. But it sounds cool anyway. I guess it's kind of like undo history but persistent and with more visibility, and with branching? Anyone from zed here to comment?
The fallacy here is that if you have LLM then just start a new thread. That's what all vibe coders do anyways
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#256Earlier quoted context omitted.
Windows is more than viable as development platform, ask Valve why they need Proton in first place.
Are you saying that games get released on Windows a lot because developers prefer Windows as a development platform?
Yes, that is the favourite platform for game studios, and console devkits.
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#257Earlier quoted context omitted.
Windows is more than viable as development platform, ask Valve why they need Proton in first place.
Breaking an illegal monopoly takes decades but, as it happened with Internet Explorer 6, it's finally happening for Windows.
70% market share, plus all the games that Proton depends on.
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#258Why develop this when the core editor is almost unusable? On Linux wayland, copypaste is broken, the file manager is laggy and snippets do not trigger before the heavy hint logic is done. This is just on top of my head, the list is long
I had to stop using Zed because of this issue (which persists despite being closed): https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/issues/38109 I can't use an editor where the file contents I'm being shown don't match the reality of the file. I guess this issue doesn't affect most people somehow, but in the age of CLI agents I'm not sure how more people aren't running into it. I was really enjoying Zed for a short while befo…
I'm pretty sure I also ran into this very recently in linux wayland while working with symlinked files. It would show an empty file or show the old content if you recreate the symlink or modify the file externally
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#259A lot of the copy on this page feels like the kind of copy an AI would produce. But I’m assuming, surely, Zed writes their own copy so I don’t want to accuse them of doing that. Marketing aside, this is the kind of thing (advancements in VCSes) that I’d usually be excited about, but which I’m less excited about coming from Zed because it makes me start to worry that they’re going to continue focussing less on the cor…
Claude Design absolutely loves creating phrases like "Share the thread, not the PR". The amount of "do the xyz, not the abc" subheadings on docs in my workplace has exploded in the last 6 months, and it gets a bit tiring to see. I think it's a hard-coded alternative to em dashes or something.
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#260Earlier quoted context omitted.
And yet it is written in Rust, a good evidence that compiled languages only help so much when the architecture isn't the right one, or bad algorithms are being chosen.
For a large application the language it is written in has almost no bearing on the perceived speed by users. VSCode is one example.
VSCode has plenty of C++ and Rust extensions to work around Electron limitations, which are then used as WebAssembly plugins on the browser version, though.
It shows the engineering effort that the team puts into it, which is why it is one of the few Electron based apps that is bearable to use.