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Changes at Google DeepMind: Demis Hassabis from CEO to Chair, Jeff Dean departs

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Re: Changes at Google DeepMind: Demis Hassabis from CEO to Chair, Jeff Dean departs

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krige wrote: post #771
ed_elliott_asc wrote: post #770

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I quite like the ai/search thing - I like that there is a super accessible ai I can ask questions without infecting my ChatGPT history

The answers it gives are often trash though, even more so the whatever lobotimized model they slap on top of google search.

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Re: Changes at Google DeepMind: Demis Hassabis from CEO to Chair, Jeff Dean departs

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Post by amelius »

GodelNumbering wrote: post #199

So, in last several months, all the prominent names Google lost: Demis Hassabis (technically still with google but these things are usually presented with a spin), Jeff Dean, Sanjay Ghemawat, Oriol Vinyals, Quoc Le, Noam Shazeer, John Jumper, Jonas Adler, Alexander Pritzel, David Silver, Denny Zhou, Fernando Pereira, Alex Turner And all the prominent names Google gained: NULL Combined with no gemini frontier GA relea…

Some of these ex-Googlers apparently are starting a new company. Any news around that? Curious what they're up to ...

Re: Changes at Google DeepMind: Demis Hassabis from CEO to Chair, Jeff Dean departs

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Post by elAhmo »

atleastoptimal wrote: post #30

I think there's one weirdly simple reason DeepMind isn't doing as well as OpenAI and Anthropic. I may be wrong on this. OpenAI and Anthropic went from tiny startups to huge companies. As a consequence the stock options/RSU's offered to the employees paid off a far higher percentage ROI than any stock options a DeepMind (and thus Google) employee would get (since Google is already huge). This disincentivizes people wh…

DeepMind is just a part of Google which does research stuff, and Google is a massive company that does loads of things but mostly sells ads.

OpenAI and Anthropic are in a completely different game, their primary business model is making a product out of advancements that come out of DeepMind and co.

Re: Changes at Google DeepMind: Demis Hassabis from CEO to Chair, Jeff Dean departs

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Post by spwa4 »

bjackman wrote: post #748
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #562

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https://xcancel.com/signulll/status/2067446889956430273

this prompted me to search and find: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/xcancel/

Thank you. Twitter has become such a terrible website in the last years. Well, since Musk, really. Real disaster.

Re: Changes at Google DeepMind: Demis Hassabis from CEO to Chair, Jeff Dean departs

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Post by chrisXOXO »

nostrademons wrote: post #645
losvedir wrote: post #462

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I still think Google is the only one who has a shot of coming out of this on top. Open AI and Anthropic's whole existence is predicated on some sort of moat, which I don't really see them having long term. They've got a bit of a headstart, but that's it. Conversely, AI is just a means to an end for Google - they don't need for their model to be the one to succeed. But, in contrast to the other major company in their…

The leaked internal Google memo "We have no moat" [1] was really prescient. It foresaw all of these proprietary models losing out to open-weight models. Entirely possible that none of the big incumbents ends up winning, economically. [1] https://simonwillison.net/2023/May/4/no-moat/

I would like a reassessment of that. This was 2023. I imagine the only ones filling the moat is Chinese labs, but there are other significant obststacles for even Chinese models. Even if they would become as good as their American counterparts, the distribution and inference is mostly in the ballpark of Anthropic and OpenAI. But I don’t know anything, so I would love to hear other opinions.
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