Pareto Front

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Post by binyu » Wed, Jul 29, 2026, 12:12 PM UTC

Pareto Front
en.wikipedia.org

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Post by soupspaces » Wed, Jul 29, 2026, 1:10 PM UTC

https://www.mayerowitz.io/blog/mario-meets-pareto

Re: Pareto Front

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Post by Aachen » Thu, Aug 06, 2026, 11:13 AM UTC

Misread the title and got excited about a Pareto font, that is, the best possible font (presumably: distinct l/I, O/0, scores within error margins of the top readability and reading speed scores, widely available, etc.)

Maybe in vein but did anyone already figure this one out? The closest I got was PT sans, open-licensed commissioned by the Russian ministry for communication (I found it surprising that a country that doesn't use Latin script made the best font!), but it's not widely shipped so you need to figure out how to include font files whenever you want to use it

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Post by bhanu786 » Thu, Aug 06, 2026, 11:23 AM UTC

may, anyone explain what is this

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Post by ChrisMarshallNY » Thu, Aug 06, 2026, 11:25 AM UTC

bhanu786 wrote: post #4

may, anyone explain what is this

Basically, prioritization.

It’s really that simple.

Eschew obfuscation.

Re: Pareto Front

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Post by denismenace » Thu, Aug 06, 2026, 11:26 AM UTC

I'm assuming you must have discovered this through the OpenRouter LLM performance graphs.

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Post by isoprophlex » Thu, Aug 06, 2026, 11:30 AM UTC

bhanu786 wrote: post #4

may, anyone explain what is this

"what's the family of optimal choices when you have multiple dimensions to rank on?"

Say a race vehicle has acceleration, top speed as defining parameters. Some are slow but accelerate hard, others need a long time to reach very high top speeds. Others are in between, or just flat out bad at both.

The pareto frontier is the set of vehicles that are best: pick one from the frontier and you can be sure that for it's given top speed, none accelerate faster. And vice versa, pick one with a given acceletation and you are sure none have a better top speed

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Post by continuational » Thu, Aug 06, 2026, 11:31 AM UTC

bhanu786 wrote: post #4

may, anyone explain what is this

When you have a tradeoff between two parameters, which points dominate the others in the sense that you can't choose another point without getting less of one of the parameters.

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Post by bhanu786 » Thu, Aug 06, 2026, 11:34 AM UTC

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #5

bhanu786 wrote: post #4

may, anyone explain what is this

Basically, prioritization. It’s really that simple. Eschew obfuscation.

you have confused me

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Post by felixguendling » Thu, Aug 06, 2026, 11:35 AM UTC

bhanu786 wrote: post #4

may, anyone explain what is this

If you optimize one criterion, it's simple: lowest is best or highest is best. If you optimize multiple criteria, all optimal trade offs between any of the selected criteria are "best" in some way.