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Cloudflare OS: an open platform for agents, apps, and work

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Re: Cloudflare OS: an open platform for agents, apps, and work

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post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's cool that it's open-source, but how much effort and scale would it take to run it on non cloud flare infra?

ffs there is literally no pleasing some people. "Hosting an open source project is too difficult! They should provide a free SaaS solution instead on their own cost but also no lock-in!!"

Adopting a new technology often needs a lot of consideration. People will have a lot of questions, want to understand the implications and discuss with the hive mind. No need to attack them for that, I think.

Re: Cloudflare OS: an open platform for agents, apps, and work

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn’t schedule tasks, doesn’t deal with physical memory, it doesn’t initialize hardware or interface with it on a low level. This is just an app that lives in user-space, nothing more. Calling this an OS is like calling Gmail an OS. It doesn’t make any sense. But since OSes are notoriously difficult to define [1], half of America added AI slop to diets that were already repulsive to begin with, regurgitates the…

> It doesn’t schedule tasks, It absolutely does. > doesn’t deal with physical memory, Well it sort of does. It allocates sandboxes and schedules apps in them. It handles loading code from storage and turning it into running programs with state. > it doesn’t initialize hardware or interface with it on a low level. Instead of devices it manages interfacing with external services (Gatekeepers are like drivers). I didn't…

Sounds like you are describing a platform, not an OS.

Re: Cloudflare OS: an open platform for agents, apps, and work

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> Every organization has a mission, a reason for being. Organizations pass that mission — along with their terminology, procedures, systems, standards, and ways of working — to their people.

Every organization has a mission, a purpose, a raison d’être, a calling, a charter, a mandate, an objective, a North Star, a foundational premise, an animating principle, an existential justification, a reason for being, and if the strategy consultants are billing by the hour, a transformational vision.

Organizations pass that mission - along with their terminology, vocabulary, nomenclature, jargon, acronyms, initialisms, buzzwords, euphemisms, procedures, processes, workflows, playbooks, checklists, methodologies, frameworks, systems, platforms, tools, standards, policies, conventions, guidelines, best practices, governance models, compliance requirements, quality gates, templates, forms, rituals, ceremonies, traditions, customs, cultural norms, tribal knowledge, institutional memory, unwritten rules, ways of working, ways of thinking, ways of collaborating, ways of communicating, and ways of filling out expense reports - to their people.

Re: Cloudflare OS: an open platform for agents, apps, and work

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post #24

"OS for work" - like, what does it mean? OS is operating system, it runs on a hardware and provides you to operate the system. I hate when companies destroy the English language with vibe invented terms.

Seems like an established term now. I read this months back (paraphrase): "Engineer me calls it a fully featured SaaS for X, marketing would call it an OS for X". Yet another company is called WorkOS.

Re: Cloudflare OS: an open platform for agents, apps, and work

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I'm mostly going off the tweet, it could be I just don't understand, but how do you managed shared data if everyone has their own copy of the code and they can add whatever features they want? I mean, I'm assuming that any sort of significant feature requires some sort of change to the data model, and even with a schema-less database you could have conflicts if two things use the same field name, for instance? Also w…

The key is the fine-grained instances (gadgets). E.g. if you're using a slide editor app, each slide deck you create is its own instance of the app, whose code can be independently modified. The slide content and the code are kept together and sandboxed together. Adding HIPPA data to the app is no different to adding it to the slide content. I suppose whether or not that is OK depends on a lot of things, but the same…

I hope there are no healthcare CEOs reading this and if there are, please, for the love of god, do not let your execs or providers use cloud platforms to create apps with HIPAA data in them unless your lawyer is really bored and you have cash to burn on all the fines and lawsuits. Also don't offload yet another responsibility (i.e software development) to the people trying to take care of patients.

Re: Cloudflare OS: an open platform for agents, apps, and work

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post #4

I liked Kenton's take on this: https://x.com/KentonVarda/status/2084990137180590572?s=20 Text from tweet: Today we are releasing Cloudflare OS, a chatbot with connectors, just like every other tech company is doing. Except actually, it's different. This is a remake of Sandstorm[.]io, my startup from 10 years ago, except this time built on Cloudflare Workers (the platform I've spent the last 9 years building) and deep…

Oh, wow! This is a lot clearer to me. I've long had a soft spot in my heart about Sandstorm. Here's a comment[0] I made 11 years ago about what Sandstorm was, to me: > I'm a web developer, but I can't really use my skills to provide an open source web app the way I'd like to. I'd like to build a small server-side budgeting app that people can use from their computers or phones to record expenses, but there's no way I…

That was a good way of thinking you had. It still is.

Malmo OS has the same mission as sandstome but I guess the focus is more around docker containers

Re: Cloudflare OS: an open platform for agents, apps, and work

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post #24

"OS for work" - like, what does it mean? OS is operating system, it runs on a hardware and provides you to operate the system. I hate when companies destroy the English language with vibe invented terms.

It seems to be a catch term now, since I've seen it being used by some startups
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