Commercially speaking, going against Git is a fool's errand. As much as I'd like to see Git usurped, I can't imagine the people backing this would sign off on a competitor to Git unless it was some type of sidecar. No doubt it'll be tightly coupled to Zed as well which is concerning. Perhaps this is pessimistic but I don't have faith the team are going to deliver anything groundbreaking given their entire business is…
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#222Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Every change is linked to the agent conversation that produced it. From any line of code, find the conversation. From any message, jump to the code it touched. This is how Zed leapfrogs the field and becomes a centicorn. If you can train a model to operate at a higher level and with looser requirements, you've gotten rid of engineers in the loop and built a system for the automated synthesis of high quality softwar…
I’ll have what you’re having.
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#223Commercially speaking, going against Git is a fool's errand. As much as I'd like to see Git usurped, I can't imagine the people backing this would sign off on a competitor to Git unless it was some type of sidecar. No doubt it'll be tightly coupled to Zed as well which is concerning. Perhaps this is pessimistic but I don't have faith the team are going to deliver anything groundbreaking given their entire business is…
This isn't trying to be a replacement for Git. Maybe read up first?
It's 25 years old, and the patch files that make up the core of the decentralized collaboration system are fully 50 years old. Have the design requirements and constraints perhaps changed over the last 50 years?
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#224Please just make a good editor and stop getting distracted by AI nonsense.
1. There is not much money in making a good editor. 2. There is money in AI products, and a huge demand for solid AI workflows from many developers. Lack of AI tooling is absolutely a dealbreaker for many developers, whether you like it or not. 3. The core primitive here is just as much about enabling live collaboration which has been on Zed’s roadmap for many years before agents took over the industry.
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#225Commercially speaking, going against Git is a fool's errand. As much as I'd like to see Git usurped, I can't imagine the people backing this would sign off on a competitor to Git unless it was some type of sidecar. No doubt it'll be tightly coupled to Zed as well which is concerning. Perhaps this is pessimistic but I don't have faith the team are going to deliver anything groundbreaking given their entire business is…
This isn't trying to be a replacement for Git. Maybe read up first?
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#226simultaneously, i find it curious that the ide's git integration feels incomplete in front of vs code and its forks.
git is not perfect but for a lot of users, a better ux can help solve most of their grievances. regardless, network effect exists and it would take more than a killer app/site to get this going.
i would not outright dismiss this attempt, just like svn guys may have treated git back in the day.
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#227Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's funny, zed started out really refreshing, and now it's degraded to the point where it's fairly unusable. Regularly it would tie up tons of resources on my fairly beefy laptop. I switched back to sublime and it is a breath of fresh air, I didn't realize how slow zed had gotten. It seems like maybe they lost their way a bit, but I recognize that also they need to make money presumably, and it's hard to do that wit…
Did you check if the resources were consumed by the LSP or Zed? Also there was a Zed fork without the AI stuff, not sure if is a hard fork or not and if is still maintained (IIRC wasnt hosted on Github)
I know people disagree over definitions of "hard fork". Gram does not send patches to Zed but does occasionally merge fixes from Zed. There is not any specific effort to keep (non-AI) feature parity.
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#228Zed should focus on basics. When it focuses on basics Zed is good. https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/discussions/54150 failing to show newly created files and declining to provide a refresh button, instead adding a polling backend, breaks Zed on WSL. Why a new version control system? Why not git, jj, or another existing system?
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#229Zed should focus on basics. When it focuses on basics Zed is good. https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/discussions/54150 failing to show newly created files and declining to provide a refresh button, instead adding a polling backend, breaks Zed on WSL. Why a new version control system? Why not git, jj, or another existing system?
It's funny, zed started out really refreshing, and now it's degraded to the point where it's fairly unusable. Regularly it would tie up tons of resources on my fairly beefy laptop. I switched back to sublime and it is a breath of fresh air, I didn't realize how slow zed had gotten. It seems like maybe they lost their way a bit, but I recognize that also they need to make money presumably, and it's hard to do that wit…
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#230Earlier quoted context omitted.
My favorite example was from Joel Spolsky's company, where bright engineers got bored with working on bug tracking software so they wrote their own C# compiler.
You mean wasabi or whatever it was called? It may seem weird nowadays but at the time it made sense since wasabi was "transpiling" VBScript (on which their existing codebase was written since they were all into Microsoft products at the time) to other languages in environments where VBScript didn't exist (e.g. IIRC they could transpile to PHP - and there isn't "one" PHP). They were basically making shrink-wrap softwa…