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Re: Zed DeltaDB

#221

Commercially speaking, going against Git is a fool's errand. As much as I'd like to see Git usurped, I can't imagine the people backing this would sign off on a competitor to Git unless it was some type of sidecar. No doubt it'll be tightly coupled to Zed as well which is concerning. Perhaps this is pessimistic but I don't have faith the team are going to deliver anything groundbreaking given their entire business is…

This isn't trying to be a replacement for Git. Maybe read up first?

Re: Zed DeltaDB

#222

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Every change is linked to the agent conversation that produced it. From any line of code, find the conversation. From any message, jump to the code it touched. This is how Zed leapfrogs the field and becomes a centicorn. If you can train a model to operate at a higher level and with looser requirements, you've gotten rid of engineers in the loop and built a system for the automated synthesis of high quality softwar…

I’ll have what you’re having.

One piece of load-bearing coming right up

Re: Zed DeltaDB

#223

Commercially speaking, going against Git is a fool's errand. As much as I'd like to see Git usurped, I can't imagine the people backing this would sign off on a competitor to Git unless it was some type of sidecar. No doubt it'll be tightly coupled to Zed as well which is concerning. Perhaps this is pessimistic but I don't have faith the team are going to deliver anything groundbreaking given their entire business is…

This isn't trying to be a replacement for Git. Maybe read up first?

That's what's trouble: git is reaching the end of its useful life.

It's 25 years old, and the patch files that make up the core of the decentralized collaboration system are fully 50 years old. Have the design requirements and constraints perhaps changed over the last 50 years?

Re: Zed DeltaDB

#224

Please just make a good editor and stop getting distracted by AI nonsense.

1. There is not much money in making a good editor. 2. There is money in AI products, and a huge demand for solid AI workflows from many developers. Lack of AI tooling is absolutely a dealbreaker for many developers, whether you like it or not. 3. The core primitive here is just as much about enabling live collaboration which has been on Zed’s roadmap for many years before agents took over the industry.

I would pay the cost of a license for a good editor. I did with sublime+sublime merge. I did with Intellij. I did many times

Re: Zed DeltaDB

#225

Commercially speaking, going against Git is a fool's errand. As much as I'd like to see Git usurped, I can't imagine the people backing this would sign off on a competitor to Git unless it was some type of sidecar. No doubt it'll be tightly coupled to Zed as well which is concerning. Perhaps this is pessimistic but I don't have faith the team are going to deliver anything groundbreaking given their entire business is…

This isn't trying to be a replacement for Git. Maybe read up first?

Umm.. it actually is. Look at what it is bemoaning. Plus the post itself is corp speak bs.

Re: Zed DeltaDB

#226
nice to see more initiatives to improve vcs in the current chaos and paradigm change.

simultaneously, i find it curious that the ide's git integration feels incomplete in front of vs code and its forks.

git is not perfect but for a lot of users, a better ux can help solve most of their grievances. regardless, network effect exists and it would take more than a killer app/site to get this going.

i would not outright dismiss this attempt, just like svn guys may have treated git back in the day.

Re: Zed DeltaDB

#227
post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's funny, zed started out really refreshing, and now it's degraded to the point where it's fairly unusable. Regularly it would tie up tons of resources on my fairly beefy laptop. I switched back to sublime and it is a breath of fresh air, I didn't realize how slow zed had gotten. It seems like maybe they lost their way a bit, but I recognize that also they need to make money presumably, and it's hard to do that wit…

Did you check if the resources were consumed by the LSP or Zed? Also there was a Zed fork without the AI stuff, not sure if is a hard fork or not and if is still maintained (IIRC wasnt hosted on Github)

Gram Editor. It's actively maintained.

I know people disagree over definitions of "hard fork". Gram does not send patches to Zed but does occasionally merge fixes from Zed. There is not any specific effort to keep (non-AI) feature parity.

https://gram-editor.com

https://codeberg.org/GramEditor/gram

Re: Zed DeltaDB

#228

Zed should focus on basics. When it focuses on basics Zed is good. https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/discussions/54150 failing to show newly created files and declining to provide a refresh button, instead adding a polling backend, breaks Zed on WSL. Why a new version control system? Why not git, jj, or another existing system?

But Zed has taken a shit ton of VC money, so Zed needs to grow exponentially. So, Zed needs to make stuff that they shove down their customer's throats and can make more money with. Therefore, Zed can't justify just focussing on the basics. This makes me zad.

Re: Zed DeltaDB

#229
post #123

Zed should focus on basics. When it focuses on basics Zed is good. https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/discussions/54150 failing to show newly created files and declining to provide a refresh button, instead adding a polling backend, breaks Zed on WSL. Why a new version control system? Why not git, jj, or another existing system?

It's funny, zed started out really refreshing, and now it's degraded to the point where it's fairly unusable. Regularly it would tie up tons of resources on my fairly beefy laptop. I switched back to sublime and it is a breath of fresh air, I didn't realize how slow zed had gotten. It seems like maybe they lost their way a bit, but I recognize that also they need to make money presumably, and it's hard to do that wit…

It has degraded? In what way? It sounds like your issues could be caused by LSP servers going rogue. Zed itself has been perfectly stable for me since I started using it as my default editor ~1 year ago. The only thing I didn’t like were some default layout changes that were trivial to revert.

Re: Zed DeltaDB

#230

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My favorite example was from Joel Spolsky's company, where bright engineers got bored with working on bug tracking software so they wrote their own C# compiler.

You mean wasabi or whatever it was called? It may seem weird nowadays but at the time it made sense since wasabi was "transpiling" VBScript (on which their existing codebase was written since they were all into Microsoft products at the time) to other languages in environments where VBScript didn't exist (e.g. IIRC they could transpile to PHP - and there isn't "one" PHP). They were basically making shrink-wrap softwa…

Yeah the big driver for it, from memory, was them offering on-site deployment.
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