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When online commenters detect my art as AI

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Re: When online commenters detect my art as AI

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Post by blargey »

fwlr wrote: post #3
MrVandemar wrote: post #2

This must be so disheartening. To take the time to create something complex and wonderful only to have a bunch of drive-by yahoos shout "LOL! AI!" out the car window. Creative work is now so devalued the instinct when most people see something is to believe that nobody put the work in and it was generated, because that's suddenly the overwhelming majority of "art" we are seeing. It's horrifying.

They’re not “drive-by yahoos”, they’re people who appreciate art, and they are necessarily and justifiably skeptical. They’re doing nothing wrong. In another world, many of them would be dedicated fans of the artist. In this world, however, AI companies have been permitted to cause this massive tragedy of the commons, and they are the ones we should reserve our epithets for.

It’s the internet. Whenever there’s a new category of accusation/put-down, there’s soon a thousandfold more “drive-by yahoos” throwing it around without actually understanding it, and definitely not caring about false positives or accuracy/precision in general; the appeal appears to be in the very act of flinging shit, and any pretense will do. Monkey behavior.

Re: When online commenters detect my art as AI

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Post by sayamqazi »

ButlerianJihad wrote: post #7
AlienRobot wrote: post #6

David Revoy isn't a random artist on social media. He's a featured artist on Krita and creator of various Krita brush packs and tutorials. None of these accusers seem to have done the bare minimum of Googling the artist's name before starting making accusations. I don't know if it's laziness or just lack of tech literacy that pervades the modern world, but it's very sad to see it. Don't let it get to you. They are al…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority

I take it you dont listen to your doctors.

Re: When online commenters detect my art as AI

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Post by SukadarBukadar »

fwlr wrote: post #3
MrVandemar wrote: post #2

This must be so disheartening. To take the time to create something complex and wonderful only to have a bunch of drive-by yahoos shout "LOL! AI!" out the car window. Creative work is now so devalued the instinct when most people see something is to believe that nobody put the work in and it was generated, because that's suddenly the overwhelming majority of "art" we are seeing. It's horrifying.

They’re not “drive-by yahoos”, they’re people who appreciate art, and they are necessarily and justifiably skeptical. They’re doing nothing wrong. In another world, many of them would be dedicated fans of the artist. In this world, however, AI companies have been permitted to cause this massive tragedy of the commons, and they are the ones we should reserve our epithets for.

That's not being skeptical. It's being cynical. Skepticism is a positive trait. Cynicism isn't and this hurtful mislabeling w/o any gain over skepticism is exactly why it isn't

Re: When online commenters detect my art as AI

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Post by wjnc »

I see the resemblance to what AI generates, and wow some of those works are painfully detailed. I don’t think it’s just training.

His work I is what I would describe as somewhat middle of the road Fantasy / SciFi Pop art. The deviant art of old, or even before, the art that would cover the scifi magazine. It’s an amalgam of styles and interests from the nerdy spectrum, obviously done with great care by the artist. Problem is with middle of the road is that that’s where the LLM averages out. Not flaming the artist at all, these are lovely works, but an average of lots of pop art / interests. I don’t think he will lose his livelihood - art by commission will stay a thing. For poster and promo work, that’s gone probably.

Re: When online commenters detect my art as AI

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Post by LocalH »

fwlr wrote: post #3
MrVandemar wrote: post #2

This must be so disheartening. To take the time to create something complex and wonderful only to have a bunch of drive-by yahoos shout "LOL! AI!" out the car window. Creative work is now so devalued the instinct when most people see something is to believe that nobody put the work in and it was generated, because that's suddenly the overwhelming majority of "art" we are seeing. It's horrifying.

They’re not “drive-by yahoos”, they’re people who appreciate art, and they are necessarily and justifiably skeptical. They’re doing nothing wrong. In another world, many of them would be dedicated fans of the artist. In this world, however, AI companies have been permitted to cause this massive tragedy of the commons, and they are the ones we should reserve our epithets for.

Incorrect. This is no better than people who claim writing is AI just because the author uses emdashes

Re: When online commenters detect my art as AI

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Post by vouaobrasil »

MrVandemar wrote: post #2

This must be so disheartening. To take the time to create something complex and wonderful only to have a bunch of drive-by yahoos shout "LOL! AI!" out the car window. Creative work is now so devalued the instinct when most people see something is to believe that nobody put the work in and it was generated, because that's suddenly the overwhelming majority of "art" we are seeing. It's horrifying.

But that's the entire purpose of AI: bring the value of the work of others down so that those at the top lessen the dependence of the economy on the masses. Of course, this will in turn eventually slow down the economy but if AI can take care of the majority of the needs of the rich, why do they need us?
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