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TIME Is Serving AI Bots a Different Website, with Ads Built In

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Re: TIME Is Serving AI Bots a Different Website, with Ads Built In

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post #14

I would also like to read the stripped down markdown copy and not the original. All the time.

The only website that I know has that has that is Daring Fireball (add ".text" to the end of the url), but the author of that blog invented markdown

Re: TIME Is Serving AI Bots a Different Website, with Ads Built In

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There was a golden age where lots of websites had WAP ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_Application_Protocol ) versions available while also running their "normal website", and the WAP version was always like 1/100 of the size of the normal website. Still, "normal websites" were minimal compared to now, but when you were on modem, even those websites loaded slow. For some time, most of my browsing were via the…

There was also AMP ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerated_Mobile_Pages ), where Google gave a huge reputation boost to your pages provided you served them under a different URL that Google could discover, and you massively stripped down the HTML and CSS to Google's limited subset. It's effectively dead today, and while it was dominant, Google abused it to get people to view and link to their cached copies of AMP…

> You may also remember browsing the web using Opera Mini, which wasn't a direct user-agent but used Opera's backend systems as a proxy that stripped, minified and compressed HTML/CSS, and resized and recompressed images. It let you browse the web using massively less mobile data, but raised a lot of privacy and security issues.

I remember how amazing that mode was on desktop, I'd sometimes enabled it on site and shrink it horizontally just to look at it handle anything perfectly. Don't remember if that was independent of the proxy though, I just cared about the removed padding and the responsiveness. Make all sites look like that and add some gutter to the side I can toggle and resize, and I'll use your browser kthx.

Re: TIME Is Serving AI Bots a Different Website, with Ads Built In

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Probably trying to take advantage of the cross session memory feature some LLM providers are increasingly integrating. Enough "suggestions" and it becomes a "fact" in that memory, and one day a user makes a somewhat relevant query and the model will be pushing those accumulated "facts" to said user.

Probably trying to take advantage of the cross session memory feature some LLM providers are increasingly integrating. Enough "suggestions" and it becomes a "fact" in that memory, and one day a user makes a somewhat relevant query and the model will be pushing those accumulated "facts" to said user. Sounds like politics. "Tell a lie enough times, and it becomes the truth."

nah, it's more than just politics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_common_misconceptions_...

Works on humans too. Garbage in garbage out.

Re: TIME Is Serving AI Bots a Different Website, with Ads Built In

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post #29

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It's a shame it's almost illegal. If you make a website that proxies content to another website but not ads, you go to jail. Reader mode only survives because it's client-side and fairly generic.

Under what law would one be charged?

IANAL but I'd guess copyright infringion: unauthorized (re)distribution of copyrighted content.

Re: TIME Is Serving AI Bots a Different Website, with Ads Built In

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post #29

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It's a shame it's almost illegal. If you make a website that proxies content to another website but not ads, you go to jail. Reader mode only survives because it's client-side and fairly generic.

Under what law would one be charged?

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Re: TIME Is Serving AI Bots a Different Website, with Ads Built In

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Firefox has this too, it's useful. However I only find that I use it for websites that have shit CSS that makes it hard to read on mobile. For everything else AdBlock Plus works fine.

Firefox reader mode can often strip out JS annoyances.

ABP works for the most common of these too (e.g. popups/banners)! You have to enable it in the settings I think.

JS annoyances it won't fix are like idiotic scrolling behaviour and stuff. And for that, yeah reader mode is ideal.

Re: TIME Is Serving AI Bots a Different Website, with Ads Built In

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post #106

That's actually really neat, even without advertising I can serve humans my full page and AI bots a version with some parts removed. Or added.

Be aware of https://developers.google.com/search/docs/essentials/spam-po...

> 403. That’s an error.

> Your client does not have permission to get URL /search/docs/essentials/spam-policies from this server. That’s all we know.

What a utopia.

Re: TIME Is Serving AI Bots a Different Website, with Ads Built In

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post #31

SEO was yesterday, now it is AIO - you will have to wait longer for the results and likely you will need a lot more cash: pay TIME for the ads, wait until next model release and see what sticks, then rinse and repeat.

The term the industry actually uses is GEO - Generative Engine Optimization.
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