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Prime Agent: A self-improving RLM agent

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Re: Prime Agent: A self-improving RLM agent

#31

It'll be really interesting when they run RL training on the harness self-improvement loop. I've tried using LLMs for harness engineering, but it often creates too much bloat that weighs things down in the end. Guessing it's just not something the models are tuned to do by default. Curious if anyone's tried using RL for harness engineering? I think we're still pretty far away from the optimal harness, especially when…

What policy would you use?

Re: Prime Agent: A self-improving RLM agent

#32
post #5

https://localroger.com/prime-intellect/mopiidx.html

I vouch for this story, personally. I love it. I consider it a classic among science fiction novellas. It does include some brutal sadomasochism with graphic torture, that's true, and that's why it isn't better known. If that part bothers you, which is fair, I would skim past it. The story overall is quite worth it

Tbh the torture scenes are not nearly as disturbing as the underage incest. It's like "Saw" vs. a pedo flick from the 70s. Especially weird since the latter is portrayed like some kind of innocent ideal.

It's frustrating because apart from those (awful) aspects the story is quite thoughtful and compelling. I always recommend people skip the final chapter since the resulting existential cliffhanger is far better than the bizarre last-minute swerve into gratuitous sex abuse.

Re: Prime Agent: A self-improving RLM agent

#34

LLM-generated code that seemingly went without much review or design is always such an interesting dive into just how bloated you can make code. In this repository, multiple files are close to 10K LOC, one file contains a switch statement that has so many case statements it spans more than 1000 lines, and lots of other fun stuff. I guess it depends on the model you're trying to use, but seems most of them prefer smal…

Interesting, so they shipped slop? Succumbed to their own AI psychosis?

Re: Prime Agent: A self-improving RLM agent

#35

LLM-generated code that seemingly went without much review or design is always such an interesting dive into just how bloated you can make code. In this repository, multiple files are close to 10K LOC, one file contains a switch statement that has so many case statements it spans more than 1000 lines, and lots of other fun stuff. I guess it depends on the model you're trying to use, but seems most of them prefer smal…

here is a take on a smol agent ("smol")

  - 21 lines of Go
  - no 3rd party dependencies
https://github.com/smol-env/smol

easier to add and customize stuff when you start from a small base

think of it as your starter dough

Re: Prime Agent: A self-improving RLM agent

#37

As models get stronger, huge harnesses may become less useful. An overly opinionated harness could even constrain the model’s reasoning instead of improving it.

I'd assume the best harness for a model will tend to be the one that it's RLVF'd on.

Re: Prime Agent: A self-improving RLM agent

#38

It'll be really interesting when they run RL training on the harness self-improvement loop. I've tried using LLMs for harness engineering, but it often creates too much bloat that weighs things down in the end. Guessing it's just not something the models are tuned to do by default. Curious if anyone's tried using RL for harness engineering? I think we're still pretty far away from the optimal harness, especially when…

Yes, used bert model with decent results.

Re: Prime Agent: A self-improving RLM agent

#39
post #31

It'll be really interesting when they run RL training on the harness self-improvement loop. I've tried using LLMs for harness engineering, but it often creates too much bloat that weighs things down in the end. Guessing it's just not something the models are tuned to do by default. Curious if anyone's tried using RL for harness engineering? I think we're still pretty far away from the optimal harness, especially when…

What policy would you use?

Not RL. SFT.

Re: Prime Agent: A self-improving RLM agent

#40

LLM-generated code that seemingly went without much review or design is always such an interesting dive into just how bloated you can make code. In this repository, multiple files are close to 10K LOC, one file contains a switch statement that has so many case statements it spans more than 1000 lines, and lots of other fun stuff. I guess it depends on the model you're trying to use, but seems most of them prefer smal…

How on Earth do we solve this bloat and death-by-a-thousand-cuts issue with frontier LLMs? Are there any actual solutions or attempts at solutions to this problem that I can try? Any tools or frameworks? I've tried re-architecture skills, dedicated cleanup sessions, and a bunch of other stuff, but nothing really works well.
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