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Re: Discovery Loop

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Post by newyankee »

darth_avocado wrote: post #161
cjbarber wrote: post #18

From Jeff's twitter post: > Our general approach is to automate the experimental loop. We think this approach is broadly applicable across many different fields of science and engineering. We’ll initially focus on ML research and engineering, but believe the approach can help with important subproblems in nearly every one of the fourteen NAE Grand Challenge problems. We think doing this well requires strong expertise…

> Make Solar Energy Economical Isn’t it already?

Probably want to jump 1 generation ahead directly compared to captive Chinese investment with fully automated US factories churning out Silcon perovskite tandem panels directly with few inputs and electricity

Re: Discovery Loop

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Post by aaroninsf »

You know what will be a good day?

When the "AI community" GTFO X and stays off.

Toxic site. Toxic ownership. Unbelievable bot activity. Indefensibly shitty politics constantly boosted.

Continued participation is a stain on every company and person who continues to use it.

There are alternatives. Don't like them? Make a better one.

Stop using that shithole.

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Post by mikelitoris »

mikelitoris wrote: post #341
cjbarber wrote: post #18

From Jeff's twitter post: > Our general approach is to automate the experimental loop. We think this approach is broadly applicable across many different fields of science and engineering. We’ll initially focus on ML research and engineering, but believe the approach can help with important subproblems in nearly every one of the fourteen NAE Grand Challenge problems. We think doing this well requires strong expertise…

This list smells of so much tech bro “I can do better than the people that have been working in the field for 20 years” egotistical attitude that permeates silicon valley. Why do software engineers think they are smarter than everyone else? Is it because they earn more than most people? But then bankers and finance bros should think they are gods? Also, solar energy is already economical!? Do they mean more economica…

Thanks for all the down votes tech bros! Really proving my point

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Post by sroussey »

cjbarber wrote: post #18

From Jeff's twitter post: > Our general approach is to automate the experimental loop. We think this approach is broadly applicable across many different fields of science and engineering. We’ll initially focus on ML research and engineering, but believe the approach can help with important subproblems in nearly every one of the fourteen NAE Grand Challenge problems. We think doing this well requires strong expertise…

15. Cut AI energy use by 1000x while increasing processing speed 1000x

Obvious near term trillions dollar market to disrupt.

Re: Discovery Loop

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Post by frollogaston »

jay_kyburz wrote: post #333
frollogaston wrote: post #310

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's why I'm surprised, they're doing like 100% gas.

Also wouldn't be surprised if they are just waiting for a new US administration.

They might be, but if they are, it's because a new administration might subsidize solar again. Meanwhile Trump seems like he'd be against solar even if it were economical, I guess cause oil companies.

What makes me pessimistic is even during Biden's administration, these companies made meaningless pledges more than actual changes. This suggests that the most profitable thing to them is fossil.

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Post by recursive »

paxys wrote: post #366
recursive wrote: post #321

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it's intended for a global audience of 12, just send it to them. No need to publish.

And how do you know who they all are?

It seemed implied by knowing one of two employers and the estimated total size of the population. I could have been wrong.

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Post by philipkglass »

frollogaston wrote: post #250
ravst3s wrote: post #244

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Solar is dirt cheap in China, where 85% of panels are produced. The problem is they're made in China and face tariffs/import bans in the US/Europe. Nat gas is preferred for AI DCs because it has faster time-to-market, doesn't have the intermittency issues. Training on solar + storage is an issue because of network synchronization.

I get the gas turbine for semi-temp power when there's not enough grid support, but Google leadership is talking about doing this long-term and at scale: https://www.gstatic.com/marketing-cms/79/80/fb229abf40efa81e... . Not a single mention of "solar" or "renewable" in there. Are they just trying to appease Trump administration?

Google may not have written about it in that document, but they're funding what will be the highest storage capacity battery system in the world for a renewable-powered data center in Minnesota:

https://www.utilitydive.com/news/worlds-largest-grid-battery...

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Post by hellohello2 »

beloch wrote: post #241
cjbarber wrote: post #18

From Jeff's twitter post: > Our general approach is to automate the experimental loop. We think this approach is broadly applicable across many different fields of science and engineering. We’ll initially focus on ML research and engineering, but believe the approach can help with important subproblems in nearly every one of the fourteen NAE Grand Challenge problems. We think doing this well requires strong expertise…

They make many bold promises, but their core goal is neatly encapsulated on the website: "Imagine a future where a handful of people can conduct scientific research and engineering tasks much more rapidly, and with higher quality, than massive teams of scientists and engineers do today." This is the same goal as every other AI company out there. Automate away the human employees and let a small number of "people" (no…

Yes but science is well-structures and practically designed about repeatability so its a lot easier to automate than "softer" disciplines.

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Post by polishdude20 »

lrae wrote: post #201
swalsh wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

let me rephrase that: "The site itself demonstrates the team is spending their money in the places that matter, and using quick solutions for the stuff they need but isn't mission critical"

You could rephrase that again I guess: "The team of AI pioneers lacks the basic prompt-writing capability to make their marketing landing page not look like AI slop." I, personally, don't hate it. It's a decently clean site, but it does invoke those thoughts in me too.

That's a great point. If you know how to promote and work with AI to create novel solutions to hard problems. Why can't you prompt it to at least make a better website?

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Post by frollogaston »

philipkglass wrote: post #407
frollogaston wrote: post #250

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get the gas turbine for semi-temp power when there's not enough grid support, but Google leadership is talking about doing this long-term and at scale: https://www.gstatic.com/marketing-cms/79/80/fb229abf40efa81e... . Not a single mention of "solar" or "renewable" in there. Are they just trying to appease Trump administration?

Google may not have written about it in that document, but they're funding what will be the highest storage capacity battery system in the world for a renewable-powered data center in Minnesota: https://www.utilitydive.com/news/worlds-largest-grid-battery...

That's great news then, I hope they continue in that direction.
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