It's fascinating to see retrofuturist ideas being built in real-time. Being able to translate your thoughts instantaneously to cogent written text and using it to make a PowerPoint is almost painfully analogous to e.g. cassette futurism, or like 50s visions of the future where we have gigantic video screens but they're still CRTs.
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#202Earlier quoted context omitted.
No. This is the philosophical basis of the fifth amendment.
If such technology actually existed I don’t think the fifth would cover it without a SCOTUS ruling. You have to actively plead the fifth to invoke it. A machine that could just read your thoughts would get around that the same way they got around the fourth by the interpretation that any information you exchange with a third party is no longer protected, in a world where refusing to ever do that would leave you desti…
Like I said, it is the philosophical basis.
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#203> The AI is no longer “other” > My AI is a natural extension of me. It feels like a sixth sense and another limb. I wonder about a problem, feel as though I’m literally surfing the web, see glimpses of the websites, get flashes of intuition about the problem, and ultimately derive the answer. We call this AI psychosis.
This line is taken very weirdly out of context in this comment though. The article's topic is brain to AI interfaces. She mentions this quote as a "vision" from 2035, where not only can thoughts inform AI but AI can respond in thought too. When we get used to a good tool it becomes an extension of ourselves. How is this AI psychosis? Is it that it's very unrealistic for such an interface to be created in the next 10…
>How is this AI psychosis?
I think it's just Hanlon's Razor getting dull. The psychosis is the lazy malice disguised as a clever one-liner, and as increasingly frequent around here lately, with no substance, of any kind. As evidence for the dullness, just look below and observe what happened to the other question asking the same thing.
I think it's time someone developed a piranha, fishbowl-themed wrapper for HN, where the visuals would better convey what's actually happening here. And it would fit the cartoon level depth many are seeking.
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#204> The AI is no longer “other” > My AI is a natural extension of me. It feels like a sixth sense and another limb. I wonder about a problem, feel as though I’m literally surfing the web, see glimpses of the websites, get flashes of intuition about the problem, and ultimately derive the answer. We call this AI psychosis.
We call this (or basically any AI-related anomalous behavior) "AI psychosis" today. The quoted text is a prediction of the end-state of her work in 2035. Without commenting on how realistic it is, I will point out that if you took the average person on the street taking a call on their bluetooth earbuds, and send them back just ~2 decades, they would look like delusional people talking to themselves. I suspect a lot…
Headsets (including Bluetooth ones) were already a thing back then, so they'd have to go back another couple of decades, I guess. Using the speakerphone mode in public would attract some looks though.
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#205Sounds like another 30 under 30 to jail pipeline scam
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#206Sounds like another 30 under 30 to jail pipeline scam. What does it mean to be a “foundational researcher” when none of their work experience actually reflects it
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#207I feel like people are focusing on the wrong thing here. He starts off at 2027, where he’ll have a headband that can read his thoughts. That’s in 4-16 months. Correct me if I’m wrong, but last I checked we‘re quite far from being able to read people’s thought from a headband. Do these clowns actually forget that part?
> But non-invasive methods are getting much better. The hardware is improving and getting cheaper, though I apologize for being vague about the particularities of our hardware.
The statement implies that the company has some secret hardware that can, or at least, is close to doing that. That would blow my mind, but the author seems to believe it.
As an aside, I believe the author is a she.
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#208Probably more useful for interrogation than coding. Under current US law, can people entering the US be subjected to mind-reading?
Their data collection is naturally based off of people talking or typing: https://condu.it/thought/10k-hours So you'd need to force people to somehow think the same things they do when talking or typing, without actually performing those actions. If you can do that, why not just have them talk?
Isn't that just for data collection though? I imagine the fully trained model they're expecting to have will be able to map thoughts -> text. The data collection will naturally need to have the 2 sets in order to do self-supervised training.
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#209> My prediction: In a couple years, the main way we'll talk with our AIs is with our thoughts. They will not be a super-smart automated intern or coworker that you desperately try to keep up with. They will be a natural, joyful extension of you.
Ah, finally! To be liberated from the burden of speaking! Perhaps soon the AI will even think for us!
On a more serious note, this is additional evidence that Wall-E stands as the most accurate sci-fi projection of the future.
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#210There’s quite a few out-of-the-norm assumptions in this. 1. Superhuman AI is inevitable. 2. Writing will become a bottleneck to communicate effectively with it. 3. Higher communication bandwidth would let us keep up with the machines. 4. Therefore with higher bandwidth humans could stay part of AI decision processes. 5. That makes it more “human”, as humans would be kept in-the-loop without becoming a bottleneck to b…
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