This would be interesting on a Spark or two. I don't know how seamless the GPU and networking cluster setup would be when resource sharing between agent and post-training VMs.
Proxmox VE now available for ARM64
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Re: Proxmox VE now available for ARM64
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#13 > Device-tree-only single-board computers, such as the Raspberry Pi, are not supported
> Virtual machines always boot through UEFI, provided by the ARM build of OVMF (AAVMF). SeaBIOS is not available on arm64.
Re: Proxmox VE now available for ARM64
#14Corpo-only support, Q: Can I run Proxmox VE on a Raspberry Pi or a similar single-board computer? A: No. An arm64 host must boot through UEFI and describe its hardware through ACPI. Device-tree-only boards and legacy boot are not supported. Basically no consumer facing arm SBCs, NAS boxes, etc will work with this. Frankly, I see this as a good thing though: Maybe it'll make the SBC market get its stuff together and s…
>Maybe it'll make the SBC market get its stuff together and start actually doing UEFI instead of every board needing a custom build.
If your board needs custom build, it's probably because there's no SPI flash with the bootloader. The board can't describe itself.
This could be solved https://sd-card-images.johang.se/ style: single kernel+rootfs OS image, with the small board-specific bootloader + dtb, which you concatenate to the OS image.
The majority of ARM SBCs can boot UEFI (TianoCore) as a u-boot payload, there are ports for many SoCs/platforms. Raspberry Pi has a port. Libre.computer ships Amlogic and Rockchip with UEFI out of the box.
Nobody just usually bothers because modern u-boot handles all aspects of boot process, incl. display and user interaction. Unless you want Windows on ARM, or want to use beefy server/desktop hardware (ARM non-SBC, non-embedded) with external PCI-e boards which may want to run its embedded .efi rom, you probably don't want UEFI.
Re: Proxmox VE now available for ARM64
#15> Device-tree-only single-board computers, such as the Raspberry Pi, are not supported > Virtual machines always boot through UEFI, provided by the ARM build of OVMF (AAVMF). SeaBIOS is not available on arm64. Few things to be wary of..!
> Device-tree-only single-board computers, such as the Raspberry Pi, are not supported
Good. The more software vendors require UEFI, the more arm board manufacturers will have to support it.
As an embedded developer I don't hate device-tree-only devices per se, and I have the skills to make any distro (that supports ARM) work on any board, but I absolutely do not have the patience to do it.
Re: Proxmox VE now available for ARM64
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#17Corpo-only support, Q: Can I run Proxmox VE on a Raspberry Pi or a similar single-board computer? A: No. An arm64 host must boot through UEFI and describe its hardware through ACPI. Device-tree-only boards and legacy boot are not supported. Basically no consumer facing arm SBCs, NAS boxes, etc will work with this. Frankly, I see this as a good thing though: Maybe it'll make the SBC market get its stuff together and s…
Let's say that one does want to use a raspberry pi as a hypervisor and run a bunch of VMs on it... But why? A raspberry pi 5 with current market pricing for the 8GB or 16GB model is a really bad price/performance decision.
Not when you can go to ebay and get a 16GB RAM gently used, ultra small form factor corporate desktop, quad core intel core i5/i7 computer for less money. With real NVME SSD and such. Yeah, it'll consume more like 25 watts idle, not 7W, but as a hypervisor platform it'll also be vastly more capable.
The raspberry pi with 1GB RAM have some very good use cases for things that need their I/O pins, but if you're just trying to use it as a general purpose computer, there's so many other better options.
Re: Proxmox VE now available for ARM64
#18Corpo-only support, Q: Can I run Proxmox VE on a Raspberry Pi or a similar single-board computer? A: No. An arm64 host must boot through UEFI and describe its hardware through ACPI. Device-tree-only boards and legacy boot are not supported. Basically no consumer facing arm SBCs, NAS boxes, etc will work with this. Frankly, I see this as a good thing though: Maybe it'll make the SBC market get its stuff together and s…
The Orange Pi 6 Plus is full UEFI and boots things like FreeBSD natively. It's a bit higher end than a Raspberry Pi, but they're definitely in the SBC market. I'd assume they'll work with Proxmox if they support the newish 5G ethernet chips out of the box.
That thing is apparently $366 USD with 16GB of RAM, so my first thought is really "it had damn well better boot things properly if it costs so much".
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Don't know about GP but... Something that's not a collection of Perl scripts?
Certainly the fact that Proxmox heavily uses perl is a strike against it. I'm genuinely curious what some reasonable alternatives to it are.
Incus[0] is one.
Re: Proxmox VE now available for ARM64
#20Oh this is awesome. Going to try this on my OCI Ampere instance.