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Online Friends Are Real Friends

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Re: Online Friends Are Real Friends

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> This will be the sixth time that at least one of us has traveled to hang out with the other. Are these really online friends if you are also recognizing them as real-life humans that exist in the same world you do and treat them like you would any other friend? Aside from maybe the Amish (and even that's questionable if you pay close enough attention to what they are hiding), there is almost nobody who doesn't comm…

I think having to travel (and doing it) in order to see people you initially met online is different from knowing people in your physical area and choosing to sometimes interact online instead.

Re: Online Friends Are Real Friends

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post #17

> This will be the sixth time that at least one of us has traveled to hang out with the other. Are these really online friends if you are also recognizing them as real-life humans that exist in the same world you do and treat them like you would any other friend? Aside from maybe the Amish (and even that's questionable if you pay close enough attention to what they are hiding), there is almost nobody who doesn't comm…

The definitions seem kind of arbitrary, online friend seems to mean either: 1. friend who you primarily communicate online 2. friend where initial contact was made online Option 1 seems odd, especially for friends who have moved. Are they reclassified as "online friend"? Option 2 represents only a single moment in time and seems to have little bearing on everything past that initial contact. Also some people seem to…

> Option 2 represents only a single moment in time and seems to have little bearing on everything past that initial contact.

It has bearing indefinitely because it means you likely need to travel in order to interact offline.

Friends who've moved might or might not eventually demote to "online friend" status, in a similar way to how they might or might not demote to "used to be friends" status, I suppose.

Re: Online Friends Are Real Friends

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How do you make online friends? I’ve been on Reddit for many years and have rarely even DM’ed anyone. I’ve also tried apps like Boo but the conversations always fizzle out.

For me, it was a Twitch chat community. It started with everyone showing up the same time every week to watch a couple of people who streamed together. They eventually started a Discord server when Discord became available (which decreased the closeness of the actual Twitch chat community in some ways by making it all more asynchronous, imo, but did also solidify the community beyond Twitch in other ways). I've been to several meetups where I met many of those people, and have also separately met the two streamers a couple of times as well. I consider a number of them "online friends" to a varying degree.

I think something like Reddit would be unlikely to lead to this sort of thing, unless you're regularly participating in a small enough subreddit in a consistent/repetitive manner so as to recognize and be recognized by others (for example, I once helped run a little fanfic book club in a show's subreddit, and if that had gone on for longer, then I could see myself having gotten to know the other co-organizers a little better).

The key is probably to have some shared interest to bring you to the same place, but also an environment that's flexible enough to sometimes talk about things outside of the main interest. Older forums that would have an off-topic board were probably better about this than Reddit, since Reddit tends to segregate discussion about different topics into different places (with different people).

Re: Online Friends Are Real Friends

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Real-life friends are ditching each other commonly these days, because the Block function on Whatsapp (or whatever app they use to communicate) seems so convenient and consequence-free.

Maybe I'm old school, but if you can erase someone from your life because you block them on an app, this probably was not 'real-life'?

The only situations you can't stop seeing someone you don't like IRL are:

1) School 2) Work 3) Very small town

If you live in a major metro area, it's pretty easy to not see people, especially if you're actively wanting to avoid them.

Re: Online Friends Are Real Friends

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post #3

Here's the problem with online relationships, you can pick them up and drop them whenever you like. You can do that in real life to a degree, but sometimes you are forced to confront friends in real life when you don't want to. A real friend requires surviving a degree of confrontation.

The OP article talks about people met online who they subsequently met and hung out with in person. To me, this is now an meatspace friendship, so yeah, it's "real".

Pure online relationships where you have never met or seen the other person are in my experience an order of magnitude less "real". As you note, there's no 'skin in the game' and ghosting a relationship is zero effort and likely zero consequences, and when everyone knows this is the case the relationships are equally less consequential.

Re: Online Friends Are Real Friends

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Real-life friends are ditching each other commonly these days, because the Block function on Whatsapp (or whatever app they use to communicate) seems so convenient and consequence-free.

Maybe I'm old school, but if you can erase someone from your life because you block them on an app, this probably was not 'real-life'?

This doesn't match my experience with friendship at all. Almost all of my friends it takes at least some positive effort to continue our relationship. I at least have to respond to messages or answer phone calls. People end real-life friendships all the time.

Re: Online Friends Are Real Friends

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For online friendship to really work, we need to solve the problem of pig-butchering scammers (scammers who "make friends with you" and eventually get you to give them money somehow, e.g. by depositing money in a "crypto trading platform", sending money for a "health crisis", etc.)

This problem will only get worse with conversational AI agents/deepfakes/etc. For every human seeking genuine friendship there might be 100 AI agent scammers.

Re: Online Friends Are Real Friends

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe I'm old school, but if you can erase someone from your life because you block them on an app, this probably was not 'real-life'?

The only situations you can't stop seeing someone you don't like IRL are: 1) School 2) Work 3) Very small town If you live in a major metro area, it's pretty easy to not see people, especially if you're actively wanting to avoid them.

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Re: Online Friends Are Real Friends

#29
There are a couple people I've met on HN, then emailed with, then met IRL.

There are also some people I've known IRL, who then saw my stuff on HN and reconnected with me IRL.

The former is neat, but the latter is even better.

Re: Online Friends Are Real Friends

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For online friendship to really work, we need to solve the problem of pig-butchering scammers (scammers who "make friends with you" and eventually get you to give them money somehow, e.g. by depositing money in a "crypto trading platform", sending money for a "health crisis", etc.) This problem will only get worse with conversational AI agents/deepfakes/etc. For every human seeking genuine friendship there might be 1…

Use apps like Snapchat to ensure they are who they say they are (if they refuse to verify via snap or insta's snap feature don't bother with them). If they are not local delete them immediately if they ever ask for money or give a sob story, no matter how long you've been chatting! Protect yourself and don't be a fool as the Internet can be amazing on one side (have many chat buds on Snap and other apps who have verified themselves too and never asked for money) and horrible on the other side(i dont give any others a chance).
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