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Discovery of a multicomponent alloy forged by the Hiroshima atomic blast

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Re: Discovery of a multicomponent alloy forged by the Hiroshima atomic blast

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why would you wish for this?

He's not wishing, he's warning sarсastically that discussing materials that happen to be byproducts of a mass human sacrifice without any regard to what it in fact was can have future repercussions.

Re: Discovery of a multicomponent alloy forged by the Hiroshima atomic blast

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What, you mean, like American Machine and Foundry building nuclear reactors? https://www.ans.org/news/article-1858/elk-river-rural-americ...

No, I mean using atomic bombs to manufacture these alloys at scale. In the 50s a-bombs were proposed for all sorts of workaday uses. Imagine using a small a-bomb for mining just as we use ANFO today. I am sure that somebody will take up the task of reproducing these alloys using intense heat from a non-atomic source. New alloys can be quite lucrative but developing them requires just as much experimentation as making…

>Imagine using a small a-bomb for mining just as we use ANFO today.

Nuclear cement kiln

Nuclear pile jetter

Nuclear tunnel boring machine.

Re: Discovery of a multicomponent alloy forged by the Hiroshima atomic blast

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What, you mean, like American Machine and Foundry building nuclear reactors? https://www.ans.org/news/article-1858/elk-river-rural-americ...

No, I mean using atomic bombs to manufacture these alloys at scale. In the 50s a-bombs were proposed for all sorts of workaday uses. Imagine using a small a-bomb for mining just as we use ANFO today. I am sure that somebody will take up the task of reproducing these alloys using intense heat from a non-atomic source. New alloys can be quite lucrative but developing them requires just as much experimentation as making…

Both the US and the Soviet Union actually experimented with "nuclear fracking" in oil/gas fields. The Soviet Union also used atomic bombs to put out fires in gas fields as late as 1981.

Re: Discovery of a multicomponent alloy forged by the Hiroshima atomic blast

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'natural experiment' doing a lot of heavy lifting here. I don't know enough about chemistry to tell if this alloy has potentially interesting properties, or it's just interesting because it's something we weren't previously aware of as being possible.

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Re: Discovery of a multicomponent alloy forged by the Hiroshima atomic blast

#36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, I mean using atomic bombs to manufacture these alloys at scale. In the 50s a-bombs were proposed for all sorts of workaday uses. Imagine using a small a-bomb for mining just as we use ANFO today. I am sure that somebody will take up the task of reproducing these alloys using intense heat from a non-atomic source. New alloys can be quite lucrative but developing them requires just as much experimentation as making…

>Imagine using a small a-bomb for mining just as we use ANFO today. Nuclear cement kiln Nuclear pile jetter Nuclear tunnel boring machine.

Nuclear Toothpaste

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doramad_Radioactive_Toothpaste

Re: Discovery of a multicomponent alloy forged by the Hiroshima atomic blast

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Interesting. Bring on the A-bomb foundries! Had this been discovered during the exploration phase of atomic bomb use we probably would have seen A-bomb foundry proposals. There is a hypothesized process in this paper that sounds like a graduate thesis on its own.

Sounds like an interesting idea and I think there are things like this being done but, couldn't we accomplish the same thing on a smaller scale without all the destruction? What about fusion welding once we get that more locked in? I know it's still a WIP but if we're getting to "millions of degrees", it could speed up the process if we're able to localize the fusion. Also, what about cold fusion? The problem on any of these is the cost -- it may be quicker/better but if the cost is way too high, it's not worth it. Maybe in the future it'll be cheaper/easier.

Re: Discovery of a multicomponent alloy forged by the Hiroshima atomic blast

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Not the most economical manufacturing process, it has to be said.

You can probably skip the town in the ingredient list.

I know you’re joking, but unironically this might be untrue. One catalyst might be something only found in cities!

Granted, you could always replace the city with the catalyst of course :P

Re: Discovery of a multicomponent alloy forged by the Hiroshima atomic blast

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post #37

Interesting. Bring on the A-bomb foundries! Had this been discovered during the exploration phase of atomic bomb use we probably would have seen A-bomb foundry proposals. There is a hypothesized process in this paper that sounds like a graduate thesis on its own.

Sounds like an interesting idea and I think there are things like this being done but, couldn't we accomplish the same thing on a smaller scale without all the destruction? What about fusion welding once we get that more locked in? I know it's still a WIP but if we're getting to "millions of degrees", it could speed up the process if we're able to localize the fusion. Also, what about cold fusion? The problem on any…

A disgustingly large and powerful pressurized microwave would likely be sufficient if "all" they need to do is spray various mixes of vaporized metals and water into plasma. I don't know that we've had too many justifications to build these otherwise

The tiny spheres of this alloy mixed into a mess of other stuff remind me of Primitive Technology's mostly successful attempts at smelting iron the hard way. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAL3JXZSzSm8AlZyD3nQdBA

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