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Meta Ran Ads That Contained AI-Generated Child Sexual Abuse Imagery

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Re: Meta Ran Ads That Contained AI-Generated Child Sexual Abuse Imagery

#91

As if you didn't need another reason to use an ad blocker.

Meta is better than anyone at anti-ad-blocking. Even the best ad blockers struggle to keep ahead of the ever-changing structure served up by their websites, and the websites are intentionally bad to make you use the apps instead. But the apps are nearly immune to ad-blocking.

“Just stop using meta properties then”. Sure but some of us have wives, friends, etc

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#92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The eternal question of tech platforms - should we be responsible for what users post? I would never say a platform has to be responsible for what a user posts, and to be clear, I mean either a user of the platform, or a user of the platform's ad tooling, or anything else. Anything that arrives via an upload button of some sort. However: If you as a platform then distribute what has been posted, yes, you are respon…

Yeah sure, I think we basically agree I'm just bemoaning the fact FB can't even pretend they care when they're so busy banning people for nothing

Oh yeah, wasn't meaning to imply we didn't agree. I'm just expanding on your point.

Re: Meta Ran Ads That Contained AI-Generated Child Sexual Abuse Imagery

#93
post #48

36 million CSAM media removed in 2025? Why aren't millions of people in jail? Wtf?

Bots, good luck finding the people responsible for them. Also how much of the child exploitation material was created by the children themselves? Teenagers who send each other nude photos are creating child exploitation material but you hardly want to put them jail for that.

> Teenagers who send each other nude photos are creating child exploitation material but you hardly want to put them jail for that.

Well rational thinking people wouldn't. A great many using CSAM as a wedge to de-anonymize the Internet or institute regressive "profanity" laws are often neither.

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#94
post #68

36 million CSAM media removed in 2025? Why aren't millions of people in jail? Wtf?

Does their definition of CSAM exclude material that's not unlawful in the US? People can be (let's say) tactical about its inclusion from case to case. But I can't say if it's the case here, nor how much it explains the 36 million not explained by other better replies.

Facebook's policy conspicuously lacks any definition of CSAM.

Re: Meta Ran Ads That Contained AI-Generated Child Sexual Abuse Imagery

#95
If any of us did that clearly we’d be in jail for several years and put on the sex offenders register but when Meta appear to be hugely responsible for increases in teen suicide or crimes like these we get nothing. If corporations want the rights of individuals they equally should shoulder our shared societal responsibilities as well. I honestly don’t get how they can just pretend they aren’t responsible somehow because it’s slightly expensive to not commit crimes or something…

If you are downvoting this please explain why, it’s important that we come to a shared understanding how these things are ever okay for corporations and not individuals…

Re: Meta Ran Ads That Contained AI-Generated Child Sexual Abuse Imagery

#96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But they couldn't possibly do it at that the scale they're operating at. They couldn't hire enough people in the countries they operate, or know the language, or trust that who they do hire aren't corrupt or working against their interest. And they can't manually approve every ad, or make sure targeting isn't illegal or otherwise harmful. you say sarcasm, but i think this is literally true. this isn't a defense of…

Facebook absolutely could remain a going concern while dealing with all of these problems, the problem is that they would be spending money to lose money. One of the more perverse aspects of risk prevention is that riskier customers are often way more lucrative. It's kind of inherent to the notion that markets price risk into transactions. The thing is, illegal behavior is also just a particular kind of risk: if some…

Right, which is why my suggestion is that we skip fines, because they demonstrably don't work, and we go directly to: you, $executive_at_facebook, have participated in the distribution of CSAM and will now be prosecuted.

Make that the policy, and I'd bet my life savings that Facebook, miraculously, will figure out how to detect this shit with bulletproof accuracy.

Re: Meta Ran Ads That Contained AI-Generated Child Sexual Abuse Imagery

#97
post #57

I'm wondering what people expect these companies to do? Human moderators? Sure, but Meta products have approximately half the worlds population using them. At this scale it's pretty mind bogglingly difficult to moderate down everything. The ads/posts served per second is an astronomical number. This truly is a case where AI is the solution. There's no way to automate this at scale with humans. As AI gets better hopef…

>I'm wondering what people expect these companies to do?

How is this our problem? We make the rules, the obey them. If they can't they ought to be shut down. If they want to argue that at their scale they can't abide by the rules society lays down for them we can cut them down to something human sized.

Re: Meta Ran Ads That Contained AI-Generated Child Sexual Abuse Imagery

#98

If any of us did that clearly we’d be in jail for several years and put on the sex offenders register but when Meta appear to be hugely responsible for increases in teen suicide or crimes like these we get nothing. If corporations want the rights of individuals they equally should shoulder our shared societal responsibilities as well. I honestly don’t get how they can just pretend they aren’t responsible somehow beca…

Our regulatory framework is so asleep at the wheel. It is as if there is this unpierceable veil if you operate as a corporate entity, as if multiple people's combined transgressions are less than a single person doing it.

Re: Meta Ran Ads That Contained AI-Generated Child Sexual Abuse Imagery

#99

36 million CSAM media removed in 2025? Why aren't millions of people in jail? Wtf?

> 36 million CSAM media removed in 2025?

No, not at all.

"removing over 36 million pieces of child sexual exploitation content last year"

Not CSAM.

Re: Meta Ran Ads That Contained AI-Generated Child Sexual Abuse Imagery

#100
post #57

I'm wondering what people expect these companies to do? Human moderators? Sure, but Meta products have approximately half the worlds population using them. At this scale it's pretty mind bogglingly difficult to moderate down everything. The ads/posts served per second is an astronomical number. This truly is a case where AI is the solution. There's no way to automate this at scale with humans. As AI gets better hopef…

They have the resources to hire a vast number of people. So yes they probably could manually review every ad. And either way it is their problem to solve. They are not entitled to be hugely profitable or free from the obligations that smaller organisations have.
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