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Re: Celld: Self-hosted, distributed Durable Objects

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Well that couldn't have been any more timely. Did they know? Were they keeping this in a back pocket for the time?

CloudFlare OS: https://blog.cloudflare.com/cloudflare-os/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49182996

And yes, celld is isolates! The very lightweight within v8 isolation boundary. Hence the "very low idle cost". The deno team rolled their own new runtime! This one without deno_core! Shout out to this excellent 2022 post: https://deno.com/blog/roll-your-own-javascript-runtime https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35819990 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35819990

It's super super exciting having an age where many pieces of software can all run with low profiles. Very timely, again, for the unbelievably order of magnitude (and thats 10 to the not 2 to the, for you fellow computer nerds) ish ram crunch we are in. Next up, at some point, ideally we get some v8-like runtimes where we can share libraries across multiple isolates! Separating the shared code from the shared data, so we have multiple instances of the library, seems much harder. (It feels like wasm has some/much promise here and I eagerly await clearer signals that code-sharing while sandboxing is indeed possible)

Re: Celld: Self-hosted, distributed Durable Objects

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Well that couldn't have been any more timely. Did they know? Were they keeping this in a back pocket for the time? CloudFlare OS: https://blog.cloudflare.com/cloudflare-os/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49182996 And yes, celld is isolates! The very lightweight within v8 isolation boundary. Hence the "very low idle cost". The deno team rolled their own new runtime! This one without deno_core! Shout out to this…

Now you’re getting into the realm of old SOA… where data exchanges are just as stochastic as services on the pipe.

Re: Celld: Self-hosted, distributed Durable Objects

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Well that couldn't have been any more timely. Did they know? Were they keeping this in a back pocket for the time? CloudFlare OS: https://blog.cloudflare.com/cloudflare-os/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49182996 And yes, celld is isolates! The very lightweight within v8 isolation boundary. Hence the "very low idle cost". The deno team rolled their own new runtime! This one without deno_core! Shout out to this…

The order of magnitude of this is simply mindblowing.

Re: Celld: Self-hosted, distributed Durable Objects

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> addressed by name and replicated to an S3-compatible bucket you own; nodes coordinate through that bucket alone, with no control plane or consensus

... but that S3 _is_ the control plane and consensus layer, no? You're just pushing this down the stack to whoever runs that S3 clone.

Re: Celld: Self-hosted, distributed Durable Objects

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i donno...i have some doubts about this cloudflare gives you that instant geo-sync across the world that is hard to beat with Celld do i need to buy bare metal in major continents

Geo-sync? I'm pretty sure durable objects are tied to the datacenter they are created in.

Re: Celld: Self-hosted, distributed Durable Objects

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i donno...i have some doubts about this cloudflare gives you that instant geo-sync across the world that is hard to beat with Celld do i need to buy bare metal in major continents

Geo-sync? I'm pretty sure durable objects are tied to the datacenter they are created in.

nothing beats cloudflare's reach they have nodes everywhere

thats hard to beat

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