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Post by michelb »

glimshe wrote: post #51

I really wanted to hear the opinion from Mac diehards about modern MacOS. I've used Windows for decades but bought a Mac M2 a while ago. I really like it so I'm not trying to say "Apple Bad". But I'm yet to see Apple's legendary simplicity, minimalism and attention to detail. I keep complaining about the fact Mac OS asks me whether I want to allow chrome to access the local network with every update. I tried to dig d…

I think they could remove most of what they have added to the OS in the past 6-7 years and I wouldn’t even notice or miss it.

Re: “Gravity is worth asking about”

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Post by nozzlegear »

glimshe wrote: post #51

I really wanted to hear the opinion from Mac diehards about modern MacOS. I've used Windows for decades but bought a Mac M2 a while ago. I really like it so I'm not trying to say "Apple Bad". But I'm yet to see Apple's legendary simplicity, minimalism and attention to detail. I keep complaining about the fact Mac OS asks me whether I want to allow chrome to access the local network with every update. I tried to dig d…

> I keep complaining about the fact Mac OS asks me whether I want to allow chrome to access the local network with every update. I tried to dig deeper and discovered a privacy settings UI with dozens of entries written "Google Chrome" with the permission disabled. One for each time I said "No".

IMO the party that should be blamed here is Google. Why do they keep asking you for local network access when you've already denied it? Why do they just prompt for access without first showing a page telling you why they want access along with a button to go through with the prompt? Ironically, this is what Google and the other browser vendors force websites to do when they want to ask users to grant certain permissions.

Re: “Gravity is worth asking about”

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Post by sandreas »

glimshe wrote: post #51

I really wanted to hear the opinion from Mac diehards about modern MacOS. I've used Windows for decades but bought a Mac M2 a while ago. I really like it so I'm not trying to say "Apple Bad". But I'm yet to see Apple's legendary simplicity, minimalism and attention to detail. I keep complaining about the fact Mac OS asks me whether I want to allow chrome to access the local network with every update. I tried to dig d…

Here are some things that existed for a long time but still blow my mind (note: this is not "modern macOS", I migrated to Linux long time ago, so forgive me ignoring modern flaws).

- The preview app - document editing at its best

- Apple Mail Search - you can filter by nearly every aspect, even between dates

- the mighty Alt key (alt+click unlocks an extra feature all the time, alt + shift + volume makes smaller steps, etc)

- apple headphone remotes also work on macbooks

- you can turn off the display by setting 0 brightness

- Printing just works - everywhere

- the trackpad integration

- brew is just awesome

Re: “Gravity is worth asking about”

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Post by drcongo »

oddysseey wrote: post #108
drcongo wrote: post #80

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I highly recommend ScreenFloat for screenshots, it's one of my favourite and most used apps - endless power user features that mostly sit elegantly out of the way until you need them. https://eternalstorms.at/ScreenFloat/

thank you, drcongo, I really appreciate your shout-out : ) So happy you like my app! Cheers, – Matthias

Thank you sir. It's indispensable.

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Post by JoshTriplett »

willtemperley wrote: post #12
JoshTriplett wrote: post #8

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Yup. GNOME 2.0 was a little rough because they swung far enough the other way, but it was still a huge improvement to remove all the "unbreak me" obvious preferences that only had one sensible answer. A few versions later, it was a delight to use.

GNOME 2 was lovely. Then GNOME 3 came and I switched to Mac.

My experience with GNOME 3 was exactly the same as with GNOME 2: GNOME 3.0 was a little rough, but a couple of versions in, it felt great.

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Post by yoz-y »

zamadatix wrote: post #101
senko wrote: post #55

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Some people, when they want to hide an option, think: " I know, I'll use an option. " Well, now they have two options.

Options are pretty nice, it's being forced to always have a long list of options you never want to see that sucks.

Yeah. This is something that existed in pro software forever. You can have unlimited toolbars and all the buttons you want. But don’t have to. Web and mobile apps just removed the UI customization altogether.

Re: “Gravity is worth asking about”

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Post by esafak »

alexpotato wrote: post #69

I know that "Great Man" theory is considered debunked. That being said, it seems a LOT of drops in quality trace back to some very senior person who cared about quality and put resources behind delivering quality and then either: - stops caring - leaves (retires, switches jobs or gets pushed out). Jobs is the classic example of this but I'm sure if you are reading this then you have an example from your own career hi…

That's not the great man theory that's called having a user advocate in the C Suite.

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Post by StilesCrisis »

layer8 wrote: post #93
StilesCrisis wrote: post #75

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Is "Intel inside" even a feature? It's not like the other laptop will be lacking a CPU.

You can read up the history here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel#Intel_Inside . Nowadays the considerations aren’t exactly the same anymore as 20-30 years ago, but by some measure Intel CPUs are still the most interoperable x86 CPUs, due to their market share.

I'm not sure this explains anything? It is the story of one successful marketing campaign in the 90s. Intel's reputation in the 2020s is not what it was then.

Re: “Gravity is worth asking about”

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Post by paulddraper »

glimshe wrote: post #51

I really wanted to hear the opinion from Mac diehards about modern MacOS. I've used Windows for decades but bought a Mac M2 a while ago. I really like it so I'm not trying to say "Apple Bad". But I'm yet to see Apple's legendary simplicity, minimalism and attention to detail. I keep complaining about the fact Mac OS asks me whether I want to allow chrome to access the local network with every update. I tried to dig d…

Wait until you have to exit the video call because you haven't yet granted screenshare permissions to the current app, and it needs a restart.

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Post by bigbuppo »

rubyfan wrote: post #86
apothegm wrote: post #60

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Roughly 2002-2010 that attention to detail was on display and the OS struck an impressive balance between features, ease of use, and power user access. Since then it’s been straight downhill. First they stopped investing in desktop in favor of mobile. Then they underwent some rewrites to OS and bundled apps that dumbed things down and exploded the defect rate. Then they started setting the stage for a touch experienc…

> And then there’s the travesty that is Tahoe. Liquid Glass has no place on the desktop (or the phone really). I migrated to Mac OS X from OpenBSD in like 2002 or so. MacOS has been a steady decline for many years, probably soon after the iPhone. Snow Leopard was probably the height of the MacOS experience. It’s been lots of little things along the way but I agree Tahoe is an inflection point.

And the worst part? It's still the best option.
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