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AI-Generated Images Discourage Me from Reading Your Blog

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Re: AI-Generated Images Discourage Me from Reading Your Blog

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AI-generated images discourage me from interacting with any entity AT ALL. Bar / restaurant posters, events, shops, anything. Because it makes the brand appear lazy. And in a weird way "anti-human". I don't have a better word than that.

Truth be told, they didn't put much effort into it before GenAI. Those restaurants that use AI menus now? They just used free templates before. Few mom'n pop restaurants could afford spending money on graphic designers to work out a nice menu. Usually they'd just use a template, send to the printer (or print it themselves), and that's what you got.

No they definitely did not use "templates" for the pictures of the actual food before. They had either actual photographs or no pictures.

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AI-generated images discourage me from interacting with any entity AT ALL. Bar / restaurant posters, events, shops, anything. Because it makes the brand appear lazy. And in a weird way "anti-human". I don't have a better word than that.

You're setting yourself up for a lonely life. I think it is like CGI in movies, in the beginning it was often obvious and jarring. Over time as it gets better the obviousness of AI images will be much harder to spot and they will be common without being noteworthy.

Well it just so happens that I am mostly avoiding post 2000 movies and overuse of CGI is a big part of it.

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#473

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One of the most tedious ideas of recent years is the "great engineers are great writers" meme, unsurprisingly spread by writers.

Unfamiliar with this meme. But I'd still rather read a badly human engineer written blog post than an LLM generated one.

Me, too. Plus, who cares if an LLM corrects the grammar or something.

If the engineer's a bad writer, the blog will at least restrict itself to the elemental information. There's too much SEO-influenced fluff anyway with people telling their supposed life stories as introduction to some technical tidbit. Same pestilence nowadays as with cooking recipes.

Nobody wants to read that shit, no matter who or what generated it.

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It's actually practical advice to avoid wasting your time on nonsense.

Plot twist, 100% likely you've read and shared humanized AI content. If you read the summary/abstract and nope out because there's nothing interesting or insightful, whatever, but if you were interested in subject of the article and its assertions and you nope out because of an AI writing tic, that's just toolish.

Robbers also sometimes get away with it yet we should keep locking up the ones who are caught.

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This is the weirdest thing—-I didn’t think anyone was paying attention to graphics and images anymore to care who produced them.

My personal signifier of fake content is that voice on videos. It’s most found in ads about foods. Or says, “the thing they won’t tell you…”.

I associate it with foreign language speakers making ads or content spam on YouTube. Or farming views with voice overs about WWII battles.

I recently heard it on a YouTube viddy about ICE https://youtube.com/shorts/56btguFIhP8

This voice seems fake to me.

Re: AI-Generated Images Discourage Me from Reading Your Blog

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I use them, and the reason is simple - they attract users. All these directions to not use AI here, not use it there, not use it anywhere, they're all basically missing the point, which is what someone was trying to do in the first place.

Without AI images, maybe some stock images? Or no image? No image is statistically shown to get less engagement on platforms that show images, so using no image is conceding to someone with a better marketing department. Stock images can avoid it being AI, but can be quite bad unless I have a lot of time. Make my own? Well, now I need a new skill, and instead of expressing my idea through one medium, I have to be skilled in two?

And, next, don't use AI as an editor right? This is similar to the images trade-off. The writing is better when you have an editor. Sure, a professional editor is better (for now), but professionals are the ones with access to those.

I just want to express an idea. Why does it have to be so difficult? Well, of course, one, because expressing yourself is hard on it's own, but two because of competition. I have no problem taking responsibility for the first, but these rules around the second are annoying. The anti-AI rules are just the tip of the iceberg here, but I think some awareness that appropriate use of AI is an attempt to overcome what were often dumb rules and biases.

I totally get how the non-appropriate AI use is creates anger, and how that bleeds over to the appropriate use. But you know, I wish there was something similar about all of the non-appropriate things that are obstacles to communicating that pre-existed before AI.

Re: AI-Generated Images Discourage Me from Reading Your Blog

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The colloquial definition of "creative" and "art" are not solely an opinion, it's a tangible thing you can explore and investigate if you're motivated to do so. The inability of LLMs to express creativity is also not an opinion. The differences between film directors and LLM prompters are also real things that we could discuss. But a meaningful discussion requires good faith, not dismissal to disingenuous argument.

You're acting as though the ordinary meaning of the words settle the controversy, but that's exactly what's contested here. Whatever definition you bring into scope will not resolve it because a colloquial definition only describes how a word is commonly used, and doesn't establish rule for every disputed case, which is what we have here. Definitions are generally not normative, but even if we agreed on one, it would…

The definition of "creative" and "art" are, indeed, contested in this discussion. Establishing a definition is, and has always been, a large part of many debates. We don't have to necessarily agree, but at least be able to state our position and discuss from there.

Instead, you did not engage with this concept until now and relied on logical fallacy. When I pointed this out, you did not revise or adapt to show good faith, but decided to pivot to falsely classifying the discussion as just a matter of my opinion with no merit. Now we're finally circling back.

There are a number of necessary qualities missing in AI works to qualify as "art". Let's take photography, as an example. In photography, the camera captures the images for a human, but the "art" is the unique (original), intentional depiction of the scene that captures the artist's perspective. Art conveys the artist's thoughts to others. This is true of CGI as well. It is still the artist using their skills to provide a unique perspective in a digitized world.

AI works lack these qualities. It is impossible to create unique AI art - it isz at best, a collection of derivative parts. Sometimes art is intentionally derivative, yes, but that leads to the next point. AI art cannot carry intentionality that art can. It carries a distillation of intention, tokenizing and associating the intention back to its training set. It disconnects the prompt author from the output in a definitionally important way. It is randomized, not reproducible. It is an approximation of the prompter's thoughts, ideas, and emotions - not a translation. It cannot reflect the human experience in its output, just a statistical guess at them.

> saying AI images cannot be art is largely just a stated conclusion.

Yes, it's called a thesis. I have one, I've stated it, and I've supported it. You're welcome to contribute to the discussion

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it seems kind of perverse to to generate an image of a scene (fundamentally not derived from how it actually looked) to remember how it looked; you even immediately point out a way that it's inaccurate ("They looked younger and in better shape but you get the picture.")

It's pretty neat, actually. If you use Gemini's Nano Banana with a photo reference, it's pretty good at keeping most of the things that matter. I walk down 4th Street daily and that's pretty much what it looks like near Berry St. And the thing I'm trying to remember is not, say, her athleisure or his white jacket. I'm trying to remember a couple with a dog with the man carrying a bag and a garbage grabber. This notio…

I think you would find learning to draw extremely rewarding

Re: AI-Generated Images Discourage Me from Reading Your Blog

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I’ve heard this gatekeeping argument before, but it’s not convincing. Nobody prevents anyone from doing anything with any tool of their choosing; nobody prevents anyone from writing (or doing art or any other business, really). There is no gatekeeping or democratization of art needed either. If you just prompt an image, it has zero value, and if your blog is just a copy-paste from any LLM, what’s even the point? Prom…

What if you go through a couple of hours prompting and thinking to get to right image? What is the cutoff to "lazy" or "zero value"?

What if you played Pachinko for two hours? Even if you won two dollars, you basically wasted your time.

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> especially hard to explain it to the AI infatuated among us because they don't really want to understand why people dislike the tooling they're obsessed with Your comment is an example of what the parent comment is discussing; the reflexive "you can't really tell and anyway you can do it better to stop people being able to tell and also soon it will be better so no one will be able to tell" is a gallop like the nar…

It's fine to care about the human element and human connection. Analogy: It's fine to want to hold a large vinyl in your hand, look at the artwork, caress the sleeve with your fingertips, whiff the smell of the record and enjoy the experience. It's just that just as with "digital CD music is quantized and sounds worse than analog" got exposed as nonsense, the same way "I can tell it's AI and that's why I don't like i…

> It's just that just as with "digital CD music is quantized and sounds worse than analog" got exposed as nonsense, the same way "I can tell it's AI and that's why I don't like it" will also not stand the test of time.

I mean you're rather boldly skipping over the part where the former is a proven phenomenon (though I would say it's more nuanced than true or false but there's too much to unpack there) versus something that, as yet, I have not experienced.

> You can still want human music for the human reason, but you won't be able to tell them apart.

I will pepsi challenge any media you like, from the most powerful models you like, happily.

And I'm only willing to even entertain images in terms of said challenge. The music and video are so fucking obvious, just absolutely glaringly AI when they are that I don't feel the need to even dignify it with a test. As yet, I've seen some images that certainly get close, but there are always tells in my experience.

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