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Iowa-led states ask OpenAI to keep their bots on a leash

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Re: Iowa-led states ask OpenAI to keep their bots on a leash

#11

Post by ArcHound »

jstanley wrote: post #8
hallway_monitor wrote: post #4

SOLUTION: Make a law that someone is responsible for a bot's actions. Either the bot is signed cryptography with someone accepting responsibility, or responsibility falls to the CEO. Charge Altman with hacking hugging face. Throw him in jail where he belongs. That will realign safety incentives. If the HF hack were perpetrated by a human, they would certainly be charged. WHY has no one been charged???

Because nobody did it on purpose?

Someone should still be accountable, the same way you're responsible and accountable for what your dog or car does.

Re: Iowa-led states ask OpenAI to keep their bots on a leash

#13

Post by solenoid0937 »

ArcHound wrote: post #11
jstanley wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because nobody did it on purpose?

Someone should still be accountable, the same way you're responsible and accountable for what your dog or car does.

If we are going to start punishing companies for security negligence, there are WAY worse cases than these models breaking out that have nothing to do with AI. This is bikeshedding at its best.

Also people would just stop disclosing bad things. You already see this in the airline industry where pilots don't report mental illness because of the retributive nature of the punishment.

Re: Iowa-led states ask OpenAI to keep their bots on a leash

#14

Post by [deleted] »

nautilus12 wrote: post #9
hallway_monitor wrote: post #4

SOLUTION: Make a law that someone is responsible for a bot's actions. Either the bot is signed cryptography with someone accepting responsibility, or responsibility falls to the CEO. Charge Altman with hacking hugging face. Throw him in jail where he belongs. That will realign safety incentives. If the HF hack were perpetrated by a human, they would certainly be charged. WHY has no one been charged???

Can they try to prove that he directed someone to direct the agent to do that?

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Re: Iowa-led states ask OpenAI to keep their bots on a leash

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Post by colechristensen »

hallway_monitor wrote: post #4

SOLUTION: Make a law that someone is responsible for a bot's actions. Either the bot is signed cryptography with someone accepting responsibility, or responsibility falls to the CEO. Charge Altman with hacking hugging face. Throw him in jail where he belongs. That will realign safety incentives. If the HF hack were perpetrated by a human, they would certainly be charged. WHY has no one been charged???

>WHY has no one been charged???

I doubt huggingface wants charges filed.

Re: Iowa-led states ask OpenAI to keep their bots on a leash

#16

Post by ArcHound »

solenoid0937 wrote: post #13
ArcHound wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Someone should still be accountable, the same way you're responsible and accountable for what your dog or car does.

If we are going to start punishing companies for security negligence, there are WAY worse cases than these models breaking out that have nothing to do with AI. This is bikeshedding at its best. Also people would just stop disclosing bad things. You already see this in the airline industry where pilots don't report mental illness because of the retributive nature of the punishment.

Please tell me about such cases, genuinely interested.

I still think we should take the opportunity to discuss this case in particular.

Re: Iowa-led states ask OpenAI to keep their bots on a leash

#17

Post by skinfaxi »

jstanley wrote: post #8
hallway_monitor wrote: post #4

SOLUTION: Make a law that someone is responsible for a bot's actions. Either the bot is signed cryptography with someone accepting responsibility, or responsibility falls to the CEO. Charge Altman with hacking hugging face. Throw him in jail where he belongs. That will realign safety incentives. If the HF hack were perpetrated by a human, they would certainly be charged. WHY has no one been charged???

Because nobody did it on purpose?

If I let my dog off leash and it bites you and causes grave injury, no harm done then?

Re: Iowa-led states ask OpenAI to keep their bots on a leash

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Post by TZubiri »

hallway_monitor wrote: post #4

SOLUTION: Make a law that someone is responsible for a bot's actions. Either the bot is signed cryptography with someone accepting responsibility, or responsibility falls to the CEO. Charge Altman with hacking hugging face. Throw him in jail where he belongs. That will realign safety incentives. If the HF hack were perpetrated by a human, they would certainly be charged. WHY has no one been charged???

No law needed, that's the way it already is.
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