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Re: I am retiring from fulltime writing (& pseudonymity) to launch Guardian Angel

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It's hard to read Gwern's accompanying article without seeing this for what it is, which is a kind of mania. I'm sure he means well and is genuine in his aspirations, but what's outlined for GA is framing LLM's as quasi-gods, which they absolutely are not. I wish him the best, and look forward to being proven wrong.

> is framing LLM's as quasi-gods, which they absolutely are not Always such certainty in these dismissals. And whenever you dig in, it always seems to be "well my super-human coding assistant made this dumb mistake!", along with a heavy dose of https://mastodon.social/@falseknees/116477394235883790 I don't think anyone who has spent any time around me would describe me as having anything but a pretty clear-eyed view…

That is a statement of faith.

Every bubble has its believers; that's why we have bubbles. There have been so many times somebody very smart has thought we were on the verge of the rapture, the coming utopia, the workers' paradise, power too cheap to meter, flying cars, settling the moon.

Could this bubble finally be the one? Sure. You could finally be the guy who is vindicated. And tomorrow the people I grew up around could be vindicated by Jesus's return to earth.

I can't prove either of you wrong, because you're not making rational arguments. You've had powerful experiences that have convinced you of something. There is no point in trying to discuss it rationally. The only thing people without faith can tell the faithful is what I said 30 years ago when I got out: I guess we'll see.

But my prediction is that we'll see an AI version of the Great Disappointment: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Disappointment

Many will stay faithful. The date of the singularity will keep getting pushed back. There will be another AI winter, but some will always see summer as just around the corner.

I guess we'll see.

Re: I am retiring from fulltime writing (& pseudonymity) to launch Guardian Angel

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>the upset it causes others So, what's the "upset"? Why is anybody here upset about what we're doing/I'm doing? I'm not backtracking on anything, I'm doubling down. >malevolence lol. lmao even.

People are upset for lots of reasons, but that's not actually important for this discussion, which is about the fact that your support for AI is apparently conditional on them being upset rather than any positives about AI. That's weird; fans of [almost anything] don't do that.

>that's not actually important

Yeah, let's just ignore the bit where we're minding our own business, pursuing what we want, yet you feel the need to bark stuff like "dehumanizing and revolting" at us.

>rather than any positives about AI

I'm a huge supporter of AI. I want this stuff. If this upsets you, I like it even more.

Re: I am retiring from fulltime writing (& pseudonymity) to launch Guardian Angel

#243

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>the upset it causes others So, what's the "upset"? Why is anybody here upset about what we're doing/I'm doing? I'm not backtracking on anything, I'm doubling down. >malevolence lol. lmao even.

This sort of faux incomprehension does an excellent job proving Planktonne's point.

Well, that's odd since Planktonne wouldn't give me a reason and said that it's irrelevant anyway.

Re: I am retiring from fulltime writing (& pseudonymity) to launch Guardian Angel

#244

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People are upset for lots of reasons, but that's not actually important for this discussion, which is about the fact that your support for AI is apparently conditional on them being upset rather than any positives about AI. That's weird; fans of [almost anything] don't do that.

>that's not actually important Yeah, let's just ignore the bit where we're minding our own business, pursuing what we want, yet you feel the need to bark stuff like "dehumanizing and revolting" at us. >rather than any positives about AI I'm a huge supporter of AI. I want this stuff. If this upsets you, I like it even more.

You aren't minding your own business (or, apparently, reading replies carefully). If you were minding your own business, then this petty spite

> If this upsets you, I like it even more.

wouldn't be appearing. Getting off on others' pain is the opposite of minding your own business, even if only to hopefully a small degree.

Liking things because other people dislike them is at best petulant. It's more cruel.

Re: I am retiring from fulltime writing (& pseudonymity) to launch Guardian Angel

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>Because the goal of GA is to preserve individual human cognitive liberty and flourishing, the corporate structure should be designed with that in mind.

>So far, the Anthropic corporate structure of a public benefit corporation with a few powerful co-founders, has best weathered the corrupting nature of success. The corporation should probably be heavily weighted to the founders by using dual-class shares to preserve voting power at the expense of beneficial ownership—the point of GAs is not to make money, but to save humans.

Did they introduce stronger plant breeds at this year’s Ayahuasca retreats?

Or did his SF network show him what VCs are throwing billions at and FOMO kicked in?

Call me a cynic but I’m not buying this save the world nonsense from Silicon valley. Not in 2026.

Re: I am retiring from fulltime writing (& pseudonymity) to launch Guardian Angel

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The LessWrong/"rationality" crowd aren't compromising their values; they just have bad values that lead to negative outcomes, masked by high-minded rhetoric that they themselves only half believe. It's a popular movement that has wound its way through out society, and the fruits are clear: surveillance capitalism, eugenics, fraud. It's honestly quite impressive how consistently you can look at [recent negative trend]…

Even setting that crowd aside, almost every time I see somebody puffed up about how "rational" they are it turns out to involve a vigorous avoidance of the values they're working from. I know somebody who says that doing debate in high school and college was terrible for him because it trained him to always argue his point but never to question it. For example, at the time he thought of himself as supremely rational…

The best example of lesswrong rationality in practice is this infamous piece and the first reply to it.

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/udFuYqqNdpdo5ym3f/genuine-qu...

Re: I am retiring from fulltime writing (& pseudonymity) to launch Guardian Angel

#248
post #38

It's hard to read Gwern's accompanying article without seeing this for what it is, which is a kind of mania. I'm sure he means well and is genuine in his aspirations, but what's outlined for GA is framing LLM's as quasi-gods, which they absolutely are not. I wish him the best, and look forward to being proven wrong.

> is framing LLM's as quasi-gods, which they absolutely are not Always such certainty in these dismissals. And whenever you dig in, it always seems to be "well my super-human coding assistant made this dumb mistake!", along with a heavy dose of https://mastodon.social/@falseknees/116477394235883790 I don't think anyone who has spent any time around me would describe me as having anything but a pretty clear-eyed view…

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Re: I am retiring from fulltime writing (& pseudonymity) to launch Guardian Angel

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>that's not actually important Yeah, let's just ignore the bit where we're minding our own business, pursuing what we want, yet you feel the need to bark stuff like "dehumanizing and revolting" at us. >rather than any positives about AI I'm a huge supporter of AI. I want this stuff. If this upsets you, I like it even more.

You aren't minding your own business (or, apparently, reading replies carefully). If you were minding your own business, then this petty spite > If this upsets you, I like it even more. wouldn't be appearing. Getting off on others' pain is the opposite of minding your own business, even if only to hopefully a small degree. Liking things because other people dislike them is at best petulant. It's more cruel.

>others' pain

>cruel

Allow me to laugh even louder. Reminds me of the "you're prompting with Hitler" meme.

Re: I am retiring from fulltime writing (& pseudonymity) to launch Guardian Angel

#250

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RAM: 2024: $315 2025: $780 2026: $1600

Also, price of an Nvidia RTX 4090 according to a random website [1]: Jan. 2023: $1920 Jan. 2024: $1811 Jan. 2025: $1639 Jan. 2026: $2193 [1] https://bestvaluegpu.com/history/new-and-used-rtx-4090-price...

$1920 in Jan 2023 has the same buying power as $2143 in June 2026

https://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl?cost1=1%2C920.00&yea...

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