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Re: Waymo in Dallas

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Post by Laurel1234 »

ragazzina wrote: post #509
weatherlite wrote: post #472

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For sure , this is gonna kill driver jobs and/or lower their wages due to the increased competition. The upside is cheaper mobility for everyone - in general tech like this should have a deflationary effect (We're still not seeing this enough). Think robots building an entire city in months/couple of years instead of a decade, that would cheapen housing dramatically. We're obviously not there yet.

>The upside is cheaper mobility for everyone Why should Google leave money on the table? They will raise the price until it's just below what people are already paying.

That's only until they destroy driver's livelihoods, once they get rid of the competition they can name their price.

Re: Waymo in Dallas

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Post by trymas »

jdale27 wrote: post #344
m_a_g wrote: post #313

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God, I love how Americans will do anything but build public transport

Waymo is already working, on roads today, for less time and money than it took to build zero miles of high speed rail in California.

IMHO - you are not countering parent’s argument.

Re: Waymo in Dallas

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Post by trymas »

amazingamazing wrote: post #221
Zambyte wrote: post #216

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I want trains.

Too much capex

Capex for car infrastructure seemingly is uncapped (and I don’t talk only about USA either).

But when it’s non-car transit suddenly it’s too much money, not profitable, nimby, etc.

When cars enjoy fuel subsidies , (mostly) free roads and endless expansion.

Update: some car brains over the world decided that even bike lanes are an issue. When bike lanes have bigger throughput, costs don’t even make a dent compared to roads, maintenance is negligible, etc.

Re: Waymo in Dallas

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Post by inigyou »

smt88 wrote: post #47
ape4 wrote: post #36

Anyone with a credit card

What reason would someone have not to have a credit or debit card? Credit cards are literally free money, as long as you pay the balance off on time

Privacy? All your transactions are seen by Palantir in real time.

Re: Waymo in Dallas

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Post by inigyou »

phoghed wrote: post #321
GuinansEyebrows wrote: post #194

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the other end of this is that all of those rewards are paid for through merchant fees, which lead to higher prices at the register. it's not free money. it's a fraction of a percentage of the profit credit card companies receive in fees paid by the places you shop. i would not be surprised to learn that even with rewards points we spend more money now that those programs are commonplace.

Still worth it so I can chargeback shitty merchants. Example, my landlord specified in my original lease one time pet fee. In my newest year lease no pet fee. I was required to pay the pet fee through some saas dedicated to this. Now that website emailed me to let me know they’ll be charging my annual fee. What fee? What for? They are providing no ongoing value to anyone as far as I can tell. They refuse to explain o…

Update: this guy was evicted 3 hours ago for doing a chargeback.

Re: Waymo in Dallas

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Post by airza »

missedthecue wrote: post #475
Teever wrote: post #453

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What if the public transport solution involved policies like taxing the existing suburbs in a way that ensures a break-even on infrastructure upkeep and operating costs so that the people who live in them aren't unfairly pushing costs onto other people in society? We could go a step further and tax automobiles in such a way that they covers the negative externalizes that their use results in so that again, the users…

From a municipal finance perspective, most Dallas-Fort Worth suburban municipalities are far and away outperforming urban Dallas (the City of Dallas proper). That's not opinion, you can see the finances as they are all public. Ask the LLM of your choice to make research easy. I'm not really sure where people get this idea that suburbs are drowning in liabilities where dense american urban centers are overflowing with…

The finances of these metros rarely incorporate road costs; their accounting does not require them to incorporate the future liability for infrastructure maintenance and so everything looks good until they need to redo the roads.

Re: Waymo in Dallas

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Post by FromHoiPolloi »

missedthecue wrote: post #475
Teever wrote: post #453

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What if the public transport solution involved policies like taxing the existing suburbs in a way that ensures a break-even on infrastructure upkeep and operating costs so that the people who live in them aren't unfairly pushing costs onto other people in society? We could go a step further and tax automobiles in such a way that they covers the negative externalizes that their use results in so that again, the users…

From a municipal finance perspective, most Dallas-Fort Worth suburban municipalities are far and away outperforming urban Dallas (the City of Dallas proper). That's not opinion, you can see the finances as they are all public. Ask the LLM of your choice to make research easy. I'm not really sure where people get this idea that suburbs are drowning in liabilities where dense american urban centers are overflowing with…

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Re: Waymo in Dallas

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Post by fragmede »

elictronic wrote: post #93
matthavener wrote: post #16

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One admirable part of Waymo's service area in Dallas is it serves areas previously devalued by racist redlining. This is in contrast to Uber's Avride and Tesla's Robotaxi offerings, which stick only to the richer, whiter areas of Dallas https://techcrunch.com/2025/12/03/uber-and-avride-launch-rob... https://dallasinnovates.com/tesla-launches-robotaxis-in-dall...

Tesla has fewer miles than I have driven in my lifetime. It’s currently still a half baked product. This might be a story in a few years but today you’re comparing an F150 to a Delorean.

How many miles is that?

Re: Waymo in Dallas

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Post by epolanski »

reaperducer wrote: post #152
epolanski wrote: post #123

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Aren't you going 20 times per month, twice, that's 40 rides. At an average 25$ you're spending 1'000$/month on Uber.

Aren't you going 20 times per week, twice, that's 40 rides. Work 5 days a week = 10 rides. Plus four rides on the weekend, or not. That's why I used 14. Where do you get 40 rides per week? At an average 25$ you're spending 1'000$/month on Uber. Even if someone did 40 rides per week at your posited average of $25/ride, that's $4,000, not $1,000. Are you letting an LLM do math for you?

You knew very well there was a typo in the first sentence, and decided to look foolish none the less.

It was clearly a per month calculation.

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