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AI fuels more than half of cybercrime in Africa as scams surge – Interpol

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Re: AI fuels more than half of cybercrime in Africa as scams surge – Interpol

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From a profitable prediction markets trader:

> "Prediction: in 1-2 years, almost everyone will agree that open sourcing the best AIs is totally crazy as the AIs become capable of autonomous hacking of most humans and institutions, serious terrorism and creation of biological weapons, etc."

https://xcancel.com/SemioticRivalry/status/20815246004504824...

Re: AI fuels more than half of cybercrime in Africa as scams surge – Interpol

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post #172

There’s little to no reason why someone from Africa should be able to make a call to the first world. It should be either extremely expensive or simply impossible.

I wish they implemented this for a week so you could experience first hand the consequences of your ignorance when everything stopped working.

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> You know about the values of a culture, if they call your old parents to rip them off. Large groups of people in a poor country steal from rich countries, and your explanation is a morally corrupt culture? not the obviously extremely poor prospects of it's citizens? > They have none, or worse they can talk themselves into this "Robin Hood" psychosis, where stealing the pension from the elderly is just fine, because…

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Re: AI fuels more than half of cybercrime in Africa as scams surge – Interpol

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post #172

There’s little to no reason why someone from Africa should be able to make a call to the first world. It should be either extremely expensive or simply impossible.

I wish they implemented this for a week so you could experience first hand the consequences of your ignorance when everything stopped working.

If it’s a legitimate commercial relation (like a mining operation) they won’t have any issues paying the price or setting up alternate communication channels.

Re: AI fuels more than half of cybercrime in Africa as scams surge – Interpol

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post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think it's necessary to have wants or plans in place when you point out this kind of thing. You should also be careful about taking imagined positions to the extreme ..."Does that we mean we should have also canceled the internet?"

>I don't think it's necessary to have wants or plans in place when you point out this kind of thing. It does, otherwise what are you arguing for, that financial crises are bad? >You should also be careful about taking imagined positions to the extreme ..."Does that we mean we should have also canceled the internet?" Right, which is why I posed it as a question.

> It does, otherwise what are you arguing for, that financial crises are bad?

To create a false dichotomy like this tells exactly why we have this problem.

I am arguing against the unnecessary over-spending on data centers that has gone into AI, in favor of making efficient models that take less energy, such that less data centers are needed.

The blockchains in many cryptocurrencies have found a way to scale and take significantly far less energy, thanks to proof-of-stake (PoS) consensus over Proof-of-Work (PoW).

We have seen little to almost none of this with the current frontier AI models which is why they currently need orders of magnitude of energy to operate at scale, which is why the over-spending and debt accumulation on data centers exists.

Re: AI fuels more than half of cybercrime in Africa as scams surge – Interpol

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Easier said than done. One of most popular scam here is a scammer using deepfake/ai calling victim saying there was serious accident to one of victim's relative and they need money for hospital (that's how it works here, money for proper caring). The victim would be panic and send the money. Usually, the scammer will think of a scenario that give the victim very limited time to stop and think, or put them in the stat…

You just gave me an idea... Let's all pitch in and spread the cost of health care around. Average it out so no one gets left behind.

In places where we have that the scam is just money for transport, utilities, or whatever. Something has happened which means they cannot access their money and make the usual payment.

We actually had an experience with a bank fraud team recently and they relentlessly ask over and over "is the recipient in financial difficulty?". They're not passing judgement on them but trying to work out if you've been convinced that they are and you need to send them money [urgently] to help.

Re: AI fuels more than half of cybercrime in Africa as scams surge – Interpol

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post #172

There’s little to no reason why someone from Africa should be able to make a call to the first world. It should be either extremely expensive or simply impossible.

Can you elaborate? In the spirit of the rules of HN I'm trying to assume good faith and trying to conjure the strongest plausible interpretation of what you wrote, but I'm drawing a blank.

Re: AI fuels more than half of cybercrime in Africa as scams surge – Interpol

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Say what?! It sounds extremely obvious and infinitely practical. How often are you (or your parents) legitimately asked for money via email / internet? I mean, my answer is: never. My parents' answer is: never. My parents-in-law answer is: never.

Great if that works for you. Asking for money is common over voice or whatsapp in some countries for things like medical care, funerals, weddings, police "fines", school fees etc.

Wow. Well those people are going to be scammed. A LOT

Re: AI fuels more than half of cybercrime in Africa as scams surge – Interpol

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post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Again, AI can also be the solution. Just like the guns vs guns argument yeah? Chinese models are going to keep getting stronger. Maybe the Free World™ should increase their people's access to and education about AI too.

I'm not sure that's a very comforting comparison: It's not clear that guns have that level of deterrent effect, and a world where everyone is shooting ar everyone else with guns is supremely wasteful . Better to strike at the root of the LLM-scam business model wherever we can.

> deterrent

"If you scam us, we'll scam, you back" ?

I too am unconvinced.

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