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Re: LLMs reward expertise

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You need to define what "one-shotting" is. Some examples would help too.

https://chatgpt.com/share/6a60b2eb-0b64-83ee-9c76-7931ca1de0...

I've been positively surprised by the result of a (overly?) thorough description, but at least to me as a math layman, this conjecture stuff is less impressive to me than a to-do app. Aren't they basically educated guesses that nobody put any real weight on, anyway? Asked differently, what does a disproven conjecture such as this change in the world that couldn't have been achieved by "Interesting idea, but you're just guessing, so let's circle back to this when you're not"? What does a disproven conjecture gain us that couldn't have been gotten more cheaply by not making it in the first place?

Re: LLMs reward expertise

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> WIMP and GUI paradigms are the exact the opposite: intentional dis-empowering Are you kidding? WIMP and GUI democratized computing!

What "democratized computing" was cheaper computing and VisiCalc, not WIMP and GUI? But again, VisiCalc is intentionally limited, it's not a all-powerful environment, on purpose. It's all about intentional limitations, making computation easier to reason about.

To put it more bluntly. Computer usage would be low if limited to terminal interactions and there’s no GUI.

Re: LLMs reward expertise

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I did a test a few months ago. A friend of mine wanted to develop what i understood to be a simple single page web app. But since she didn’t have any software engineering experience she asked me to help. Around that time everyone was talking about how literally anyone can develop software with LLMs i asked her if she could give it a try first, and if I could watch the attempt. I was fully expecting that writing the c…

Do your friend at least know what Claude Code (or any harness) is? Of course she wouldn't be able to make a website if she doesn't even know the right tools to use. But I don't think it prove anything. Knowing and installing Claude Code might not be a common sense, but nor is it "expertise" or "skill." I've seen in first hand that people struggle installing Steam . Yes, "people" in the plural. But just because some p…

You overestimate the average person

Re: LLMs reward expertise

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Meanwhile all I do is vibecode. I get the outcomes I want though. I see vibe coded apps as requirement documents. Rarely do I have to engineer. If my job gave me some actual tasks, then maybe I'd engineer something. But at home? Vibe coding all the way. I'm open to engineering, but I need a compelling reason such as: the app is fundamentally broken and an LLM is going in circles. When the only user is me, there are n…

I suck at writing code, so strictly speaking: Everything I do is vibecoded. The stuff that I produce in this way would probably be considered by many to be unusable trash. But it solves the problems I have, and it does so with exactly the amount of precision that I demand. When I built a PWM fan controller for a pro audio amplifier, I was very particular about some aspects. I wanted maximum resolution from the DS1820…

I’m a hardware engineer and there’s many ways to solve this problem but I’m not sure I understand yours at all haha.

Re: LLMs reward expertise

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I hear the complaint, all I can say is that everyone I speak to about this wants to diagnose things correctly while not wasting anybody's time or energy on bad diagnostic workups. > Combine this with our (otherwise reasonable) tendency of avoiding the information bias of seemingly unnecesary tests There isn't a way around this: if you order the test and a value is abnormal, you are now committing yourself to treat a…

I'm not disagreeing with what you say here, but I think we're arguing about subtly different things. E.g. you'll note my zebra example was not about whether one should additionally request a photo of the animal just to make sure it is indeed a rare animal. It was arguing that given existing differentiating information that points to an uncommon condition in the first place, one should not dismiss this on the basis th…

I hear your hypotheticals about testing. I think this comes up often, by way of example, when somebody has been in the hospital for a long time. Long stays aren't always medical, they're sometimes due to social issues (adult children are out of town until Tuesday, so grandma won't be safe elsewhere and stays in the hospital).

We don't have a prior that checking her labs daily will have a medical benefit after the time we decided she should have been discharged. And there are some abnormal values in daily labs that are, at once, not uncommon to encounter and also too abnormal for the day of discharge. So we sometimes end up keeping grandma an extra day or two to give her more potassium while we have no idea what the day-to-day variation of serum potassium would be for a 'healthy' person similar to grandma.

This is a clear example of when we shouldn't order testing: there's no expectation of marginal benefit to us while there's a risk that we'll be forced to act based on the result. This is also an example of a time where a person might say, "Why aren't you checking her? What if she develops [x], [y], or [z] and you don't see it until she has symptoms?"

Re: LLMs reward expertise

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He's saying: "Expertise improves AI-assisted work, experts can steer better and get more out of models." The obvious conclusion for anyone is "therefore experts will remain the indispensable and specially rewarded center of the production process." That this is appearing exactly now, and in this form, strikes me as extremely suspicious. I don't doubt the author's sincerity on the surface. What I suspect is that anxie…

Okay, I get your point. However, I personally agree with the author and I don't think his argument is necessarily motivated out of an anxious fear. On the contrary I think it may be motivated out of a sense of extreme exhilaration and empowerment. Because experts (like myself as a programmer for 15+ years) who are using AI in many fields are suddenly empowered and much more useful than we were before AI. My employabi…

> A single competent person with AI can replace an entire marketing video production department or agency.

This is a good example of what I was pointing to with "fully transforms the division of labor."

I'm personally in a position similar to yours, but as I watch the different moves the labs make, I see the edge we've been handed (for now) also constantly under attack from different angles. This is why it seems to me that so many who can make the most of things for the moment also feel the clock is ticking.

Re: LLMs reward expertise

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post #413

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I suck at writing code, so strictly speaking: Everything I do is vibecoded. The stuff that I produce in this way would probably be considered by many to be unusable trash. But it solves the problems I have, and it does so with exactly the amount of precision that I demand. When I built a PWM fan controller for a pro audio amplifier, I was very particular about some aspects. I wanted maximum resolution from the DS1820…

I’m a hardware engineer and there’s many ways to solve this problem but I’m not sure I understand yours at all haha.

Hah. I'm not any kind of engineer. If you feel like it, I'd be appreciative of any evaluation you might have for what I came up with and how I came to rationalize it.

I wanted the thing to be as quiet as possible at all times, and to always minimize the ways in which it can annoy.

Fans, as frequently implemented, are often annoying. They're often noisy all of the time because they lack controls.

Sometimes, they have dynamic controls that suck. Like a Juniper switch that runs the fans at a screaming 100% that you can't have a conversation near during its minutes-long boot process, and then quiets down to only a dull roar (but never any quieter).

Sometimes they suck in other ways: It starts quiet, but then it ramps up in audible quantized steps as cooling demands increase. The very definition of these steps is distracting.

Sometimes, they're just too responsive to be tolerated in the company of humans. The fan speed is always hunting and changing the pitch of the noise it produces, and sometimes this adjustment happens at a discernible and very regular interval that just makes it maddening to be around.

Sometimes, they're arguably even worse than any of that: The fan cycles on and off. It is a jet turbine, or it is silent. There is no in-between.

Sometimes, they're very clever in the worst ways: They ramp up instantly in response to dynamic events, and then slowly wind back down. That's awful in a power amplifier but it happens anyway, wherein: Every loud amplified sound is punctuated by the dying roar of a fan, even when the dynamic event was actually a short-lived nothingburger.

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Anyway, this one is buttery-smooth. It responds to temperature on a curve. It has no perceptible steps as speeds increase or decrease. It's deliberately lazy and smoothed-out in its response; this amplifier has several pounds of aluminum heatsinks so instant response just isn't ever useful, and it's also least-annoying to deliberately eliminate rapid speed changes altogether.

The fan is a big Nidec screamer that I got from a late-century, grossly-overbuilt Dell Precision desktop. It can reliably spin so slowly that it's essentially silent (as is useful for an engineering workstation like that Dell), and it can also move enough air to fly itself right up and off of the bench.

The controller automatically finds the minimum viable speed for the installed fan, so it avoids being stalled at low duty cycles. In this way, some air is moving regardless of which make/model of 4-wire PC-style PWM fan is used down the road, making potential bush fixes more practical and functional. (It also does stall detection and recalibrates if that's ever necessary for some reason.)

And there's no lookup tables, because lookup tables imply steps and steps are bad. Besides, I'm not trying to save a million nickles on a million units here; shaving pennies isn't part of the program and a single $3 MCU board is cheap for my [qty. 1] application, so that what it gets. By extension, it has way more than enough grunt to get everything done and it just computes it all over and over again.

Like the output %, which gets rejiggered at a rate of 1KHz: I could have probably been happy with 100Hz. Or 10Hz. But the MCU is already chosen and it can do 1KHz just fine, so... that's what it do. It doesn't matter that it is inefficient; efficiency wasn't a goal. :)

And, because it's vibe coded: Of course this big rack-mount power amp from 1986 has a wifi-accessible web interface for its cooling system. It seemed like a pocket computer would be best way to provide a way to twist some of the cooling-related knobs when used in the field, since this is a functional prototype that sometimes gets used in literal fields. (It was dead simple to to get the bot to put that part together. The networking stuff might have been the easiest part.)

Re: LLMs reward expertise

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I have the same experience giving my brother an OpenClaw as his personal assistant. His words were: It feels as if I need to know how to program it. I was expecting he could say something like "Oh, it seems like you don't remember the people I'm referring to, perhaps you need some kind of CRM system. Can you investigate if there are any easily available CRM systems you can interface with, so we don't need to make one…

Curiosity and a tinkerer's / engineer's mindset is basically the only thing we can hire for right now

That and a proven ability to apply it in a given domain. I am really not good with electronics. I’m sure it’s just a mental block, but I see people debug electronics as relentlessly as I debug code.
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