See the W3C Linked Web Storage (LWS) work on what could be apropos data ownership and transfers.
Toot.community is shutting down
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Re: Toot.community is shutting down
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nostr is just Mastodon or IRC with automatic multiposting. Users must selfhost data for decentralized socials to work. One big problem with running a Twitter-like social media, Twitter itself included, is that hosting UGC is just risk without rewards. Users don't pay for the bandwidth, advertisers don't like competing quality UGC(they're possibly even angry about social media that it keeps undermining their "creative…
"So, a Mastodon alternative has to be selfhosted by default, and infinitely easy to set up for selfhost." You might be interested in Holos: "Holos turns your phone or computer into a full ActivityPub server. No big-tech hosting, no middleman reading your posts. A relay keeps your identity online 24/7 while your device stays in your pocket." https://holos.social/
That's close to what I had in mind, but relay architecture is not enough; people will "abuse" the relays, and relay server operators will find it uncomfortable. Relays shouldn't be hosting content at all.
Re: Toot.community is shutting down
#83>the server won’t be handed over to anyone else. That's a shame. It seems to me that we are in a frustrating situation where there are probably clever ways to solve the problems created by social media. But because launching new social platforms requires solving a difficult chicken-and-egg problem, we don't get very many chances to try anything new or innovative. Another way of putting it is: Occasionally people will…
No, not handing over the server to anyone is the only responsible thing to do when you don't have a successor that you can trust 100%.
Why is an untrustworthy successor worse than abandoning the service? Users can always voluntarily migrate elsewhere if the successor does a bad job.
Re: Toot.community is shutting down
#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's possible to contact the instances who retain the copies of the data, and have them delete it. It's not like the Fediverse is some kind of blockchain, where data is replicated forever unless authorised parties delete it. (And deletion requests can still be sent out by whoever controls the domain, after the instance is gone.)
(to be clear, i have been on mastodon/fedi for coming up on a decade now and have no qualms about the way leaving or sunsetting an instance works. part of the magic imo is that old posts from long-dead instances regularly go around again) how exactly do you propose someone looking to delete all of their old posts from a dead instance might obtain the exhaustive list of instances that have historically received their…
Obtaining the exhaustive list of instances is very difficult, but typing your old handle into the search box of the ten largest Mastodon instances will get you many leads. Aiming for an exhaustive list is somewhat security theatre: chances are, many of your Fedi posts are in Common Crawl, which the instance sending DELETE wouldn't affect – and good luck redacting Common Crawl. Fedi is not a secret medium. (This is not to say that the maximalist "if it's technically possible, I have a right to do it!" position is anything other than a huge violation of privacy.)
Re: Toot.community is shutting down
#85> More importantly, I don’t enjoy how people interact on social media anymore I'm really just not convinced social media is very useful. The main use I can see is very fast dispersal of information, but anything truly important will be distributed by mainstream media, and less important things will travel between small communities at a slower rate. So what are we left with exactly? I think small communities where peo…
> anything truly important will be distributed by mainstream media
First of all this is just blatantly not true (e.g. MSM ignoring politically inconvenient news). Second of all what is important varies for each person. e.g., local news or news about your specific interests
> I think small communities where people actually have to maintain a reputation are the future, and the past.
This is what social media is (was?)